If the church is wrong, people waste a lot of time on the Mormon church

Reasons to agree

  1. Mormons spend 3 hours on Sunday in a church. They could be having fun instead. They could be water skiing, hanging out with people that they choose, doing things with family.

  2. Mormon missionaries waste two of their best years on a mission.

  3. At the Mormon church you hear the same things over and over again. People can't help it. They raise their hands, and you hear the fist word out of their mouth, and you know exactly what they are going to say...

  4. It is true that time spent is service is not wasted, but not much time in the Mormon church could be considered true service from a secular perspective... Building up the kingdom of god, presupposes it truly is the kingdom of God... Sure visiting the lonely is good, but most meetings are all spent trying to get people baptized, going to their meetings, and things that have not eternal consequence unless the Chruch is 100% true, or mostly true. 


Reasons to agree

  1. Waste is loaded word. Sure, if the church is wrong, people do waste a lot of time.

A lot of effort goes into eating and getting your kids to eat


Background: One of the many terrible terrible parts about children is feeding them. Every day! Often more than once!

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2005, James (Birthday). Wall paper in process of being removed

Toll Station. McCall Idaho. 2012.


2004 @ our first home

Jan 2008. I guess he likes it

Ali. Jan 2009 

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Philip Speaks

The Art Institute of Chicago is Better than the Denver Museum of Art

  1. The Art Institute of Chicago is bigger, and bigger museums are better.
    1. the second largest art museum in the United States, after the Metropolitan Museum of Art.
    2. The Art Institute of Chicago has over 260,000 works of art.
    3. You run out of things to see when going to the Denver art museum, because it doesn't change very often.
Best reasons to disagree: -1
  1. Its less expensive to stay and park in Denver, in 2012 parking was $28 in Chicago and $4 in Denver. 
Coffin and Mummy of Paankhenamun, Third Intermediate Period, Dynasty 22 (c. 945–715 B.C.) Cartonnage, gold leaf, pigment; human remains
Ancient Egyptian beliefs in the afterlife gave rise to the complex art and science of mummification. This vividly painted Mummy Case was the innermost of a series of shells that housed the body of a deceased person. The hieroglyphic inscriptions and painted scenes identify this mummy as Paankhenamun, a doorkeeper in the temple of the god Amun. The central scene shows the hawk-headed god Horus presenting Paankhenamun to Osiris, ruler of the afterlife.
http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/64339
Knob-Handled Dish, Greek, from Apulia, Italy, The Baltimore Painter ?
330/320 B.C., Earthenware, red-figure technique
Scene: Persephone in a chariot led by Hemes followed by Artemis; above, Hera, Aphrodite, and Eros
For the ancient Greeks, the myth of Persephone accounted for the changing of the seasons. When Persephone was abducted by Hades, king of the underworld, her mother Demeter, the goddess of fertility, cursed the world with barren winter. This scene shows Persephone's triumphant return, bringing the season of spring.
http://www.artic.edu/aic/collections/artwork/102081
Sarcophagus Panel Showing the Abduction of Persephone
Roman, C. A.D. 190-200, Marble
Vincent  Van Gogh Dutch, 1853-1890, Self-Portrait,
1887, Oil on artist's board, mounted on cradled panel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-portraits_by_Vincent_van_Gogh
Chicago Pointillism A Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Sunday_Afternoon_on_the_Island_of_La_Grande_Jatte
Pierre-Auguste Renoir
On the Terrace
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Auguste_Renoir
Paris Street; Rainy Day is a large 1877 oil painting by the French artist Gustave Caillebotte. The piece depicts the Place de Dublin, an intersection near the Gare Saint-Lazare, a railroad station in north Paris. One of Caillebotte's best known works, it debuted at the Third Impressionist Exhibition of 1877. Art Institute curator Gloria Groom described the piece as "the great picture of urban life in the late 19th century." Caillebotte's interest in photography is evident in the painting. The figures in the foreground appear slightly "out of focus", those in the mid-distance (the carriage and the pedestrians in the middle of the intersection) have sharp edges, and then the background becomes progressively indistinct.
Millennium Park Skating Rink.
Millennium Park Skating Rink.
Its hard to hold the camera still and take a picture of yourself
Pedway--downtown pedestrian walkway system
http://www.cityofchicago.org/content/dam/city/depts/cdot/Pedwaymap_2008.pdf
James and Alison infront of the Art Institute. Aug 2010. 
We have also taken James a couple of times, but I can't find those photos right now.

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  1. https://twitter.com/artinstitutechi:

You should take young kids to art museums. 
Best reasons to agree: +1

  1. You should get out and walk around with kids, even if it is just at Walmart, and their are cooler things to look at at an Art Museum than Walmart.
  2. The kids aren't as awful when they aren't together.
  3. Even if they don't remember it, if you take pictures of them with great art, it will help them contextualize themselves with regard to history, and the world around them. 


You should go to the Illinois Train Museum in Union IL +2

Background: Before James loved animals, he loved trains. He spoke about them all the time. In particular was a train movie we got from the library that he must have watched 30 times.

I ended up driving up their with James on day, and Megan stayed home.

Best reasons to agree: +3
  1. Kids like trains. 
  2. The Illinois Train Museum has lots of trains. 
  3. Trains are cool. Trains are some of the biggest things that people will see move. Trains have changed a lot over time. Trains used to be very important to our county's development. Learning about trains will also allow you to learn a little about what our grand parent's lives were like.
Best reasons to disagree: -1
  1. Union Illinois is 59 miles from Chicago. It would be cooler if it was a little bit closer. 
Score:
# of reasons to agree: +3
# of reasons to disagree: -1
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0

# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: +2

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This is my favorite picture, I think.
He just looks so small compared to those giant trains.  
This is in an area with no moving trains...
Don't worry...
I typically don't let my kids play on train tracks.
A very big train
Yes. I did let him climb the trains. 
This train was used to cut through snow. 



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I hear steam engines are coming back

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The Chicago Morton arboretum is a good place to take your family

Background: 
July 2009 with Megan's Mom 

The Chicago Botanic Gardens in Glencoe, Illinois are a great place to get family photos. Just let the kids walk around, take photos, and save all the money of going to a studio.

Its fun taking pictures in the same places, and seeing the kids get older.

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Al

September 23rd 2009, When my parents drove out, after Philip was Born.





Phil's tough guy look

Fountains
August 11, 2012


























Trains




Chicago has a lot of stuff to do

Reasons to agree:
  1. Trips to the zoo are good for kids. Chicago has good zoos. 
  2. The Indiana Sand Dunes are cool, and close to Chicago
  3. Chicago has good opportunities to watch sports.
  4. Chicago has good museums
  5. People watching is entertaining around Chicago.
  6. Naperville Last Fling is Fun
Images that agree:
April 2005, with James on the train

Tony and Tina's Wedding, November 2006

2007 Highland games. Very HOT that day.

2008 at the Shedd Aquarium with the baby beluga. James' first animal.

When KC came to visit, I invited myself along for the trip to the city.
We ended up walking, with 3 kids, all the way from the train station, to Millenium Park, and to
The Hancock Tower. We walked back to Navy Pear and caught a water taxi to the train station.

2006 Nextfest

Tastes of Chicago
James on our death march from union station to the Hancock building