The Chicago Botanic Garden is a good place to take your kids +2

Best reasons to agree: +4
  1.  You can take pictures of your kids in a pretty places. For the cost of going to a professional studio, your kids can walk around and you can take pictures of them.
  2. You can people watch at the gardens, which you can't do in the wilderness. 
  3. You can get gardening ideas, and find plants you want in your yard at the botanic garden.
  4. They have paths, which is good if you have kids in strollers. 
  1. You can walk around and look at nature for free.
  2. You don't have to be around people if you just go out into nature. 
Score:
# of reasons to agree: +4
# of reasons to disagree: -2
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: +2


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Going to the zoo is worth your families time and money +0

Reasons to Agree: +3
  1. It is worth it to have animals be part of your life
  2. You should take your kids outside where they can walk around, see different people, and explore their surroundings. Kids get to see all different types of people at the zoo.
  3. You should teach your kids about Animals. Kids learn about Animals by going to the zoo. You can't learn to appreciate animals unless you see them. When kids learn about animals, they learn about biology which may result in medical interest. Medical interest can result in an interest in many different jobs, from pharmacy to being a doctor. Learning about animals also teaches about geography. At least it did for our kid, as he learned what animals lived where. 
Reasons to disagree: -2
  1. Usually people don't spend much time studying animals at the zoo. People tend to look at the animal, watch it for a few minutes, and move on... 
  2. Kids will learn more about animals by having a pet than going to a zoo. Letting your kids have a pet teaches your kids. Having a long time responsibility for an animal can teach you a lot. 
  3. Kids are taught that animal rights can be ignored when going to the zoo.

Score:
# of reasons to agree: +3
# of reasons to disagree: -3
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: +0

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This movie supports the conclusion because it shows that:
1. Kids can have authentic experiences with animals at zoos.
Dolphin show


Daughter dancing

Wolves
Youngest watching the giraffe. 
My oldest son doesn't know how to wear a hat...

Some zoos give animals lots of room

It is interesting watching kids learn to speak. +2

Best Videos that agree: +
  1. Kids come into this world knowing nothing. Without knowing any rules, just hearing other people speak, they are able to learn perhaps one of the most complex things they will ever do, in only a few years...
  2. Watching kids learn to speak, can remind you of your kids when they were doing that. 
  3. Just because you understand how mankind was able to learn how to speak, doesn't mean that it is less amazing, interesting, or that you should appreciate the miracle of life, and knowledge, and the ability to communicate less. 
  4. in A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's court Mark Twain spoke of the "darling mispronunciations of childhood".
Best reasons to disagree: -
  1. Animals don't have really complex words, but they are able to make noises, and have the begining of languages... Give them a few million years, and this could develop in non-spectacular ways, if you watched the slow progress.  
Score:
# of reasons to agree: +3
# of reasons to disagree: -1
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: +2

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      It is hard work but can be humorous teaching kids manners and hygiene

      Best Videos that agree: +2
      1. Kids eat things they should not eat. 
        1. Kids lick bird poop off sliding glass windows. 
        2. When you find brown stuff in their bed, and say it looks like poop, they just might tell you, "Don't worry, it doesn't taste like poop." When you ask why they tested it, they might say, "don't worry I didn't eat it, I just put my teeth on it". PS: it was, against all assurances, poop. We told her she needs to wash her hands, because she might get sick, she tells us, "I'm already sick" (she had a runny nose).
        3. Kids eat dirt.
        4. Kids eat rolly pollies (not ours, yet)
      2. Kids eat things that shouldn't be eaten, but won't eat anything you try to feed them. 
      3. It is funny seeing a little brain that has not yet learned that it is impolite to suck your toes in public...
      Score:
      # of reasons to agree: +3
      # of reasons to disagree: -0
      # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +4
      # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
      Total Idea Score: +3+4/2=5

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      Interest of those who agree: +
      1. Sanity
      2. Cleanliness
      3. Sanitation
      4. Control
      Interest of those who disagree: -
      1. Variety
      2. Legacy

        It is difficult to go out to eat with kids

        Best Videos that agree: +
        1. Kids love to explore new places they go to.
        2. Kids don't enjoy talking, and so they entertain them selves by messing around with stuff.
        3. Kids can't hold still very well.
        Best reasons to disagree: -3
        1. When they are really young they mostly just sleep
        2. If you bring stuff for kids to play with, they are OK. 
        3. Most restaurants accommodate kids. 
        Score:
        # of reasons to agree: +3
        # of reasons to disagree: -3
        # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
        # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
        Total Idea Score: +0

        You should back up your family videos on youtube

        Reasons to agree: +6
        1. All hard drives crash unexpectedly. You can trust that YouTube will not delete  you videos.
        2. If you put you videos on YouTube grandparents and other relatives could watch them. Google search now includes personalized search, which means that potentially if any of your relatives are searching for "Yellowstone" because they want to use a video of Yellowstone in their school project, Google will tell show them your video of Yellowstone, with their grandparents in it... In other words Google has made it very easy for related people and friends to automatically find interesting stuff from each other...
        3. It might be boring now, but ever little thing your kid did when they were babies will be interesting when they have moved out.
        4. If you don't remember much from your childhood, videos can be a great way to jog your memory.
        5. If you don't put names and locations and other private information in the video, there shouldn't be much that weirdos can do to harm you from watching you sing happy birthday to your kid at Olive Garden, or seeing them play soccer... They could make their own recordings of people at olive garden, or playing soccer. If you go out in public you are not private. You are being video taped. There are drones and cameras everywhere. If you have anti virus for your computer (which we do) that will do more to protect identify theft, than not sharing videos with your family.
        6. It is not narcissistic to believe that your life is important: it is the most important thing that you have. It might not be important to others, but it is very important that you value your own life, because you only live once. When you die, your kids and perhaps grand kids will remember you. Maybe they will keep thumb drives with your pictures or videos on it. But if Google is going to value you enough to try to remember anything from your life, it won't matter in the end, but if it makes you feel like you won't be forgotten, that is OK. And if you have anything of value to say to grand kids or great grand kids  it could help you connect with them. It would have been great if we could have seen family life from 1000 years ago, why won't Google still have these videos 1000 years from now?
        Reasons to disagree: -2
        1. Putting videos of yourself can make others wonder if you are a narcissistic. 
        2. Weirdos could get information from your videos to harm your family, somehow.
        Score:
        # of reasons to agree: +6
        # of reasons to disagree: -2
        # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
        # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
        Total Idea Score: +4

          The National Parks are well ran and enjoyable -2

          Best reasons to agree: +
          1. The government has to keep people from feeding bears, to prevent bears from becoming dependent on people. 
          Best reasons to disagree: -
          1. There is no reason to have government owned gas stations within the park. 
          2. More buildings could be built within the state park in such a way that doesn't detract from the natural features  You could require the buildings be LEED certified, to appease the environmentalist. The could be designed so as not to interfere with wildlife. 
          3. The government should be more capitalistic with our state parks, in a smart way. When I say capitalism  you think Wal-Mart. Don't. Think Apple, Whole Food, Trader Joe, or Costco. We can combine the best of capitalism and scientific preservation of a wildlife.  Charging rich people to have a premium experience can fund wildlife preservation, and fund improvements that poor people can also experience. For instance, Indian Reservations that are not controlled by the federal government build glass bottom deck floors over the grand canyon. This does not hurt anything. Of course if too many people are driving on roads, than it might disrupt migration and stuff, but we can figure this stuff out...
          Score:
          # of reasons to agree: +1
          # of reasons to disagree: -3
          # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
          # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
          Total Idea Score: +2
          Yellowstone, 1978ish. Me getting pushed around Yellowstone 
          like Royalty
          Summer 2011. Wild Bison! James getting carried around like royalty. 
          Old Faithful, Summer 2011. Sunsets really are better in the west, when
          surrounded by wild elements. 
          2011. A cool bike we saw in Yellowstone
          2011. Megan and I will cruse the country on bikes like this



          Background and Context:
          I've been to Yellowstone a couple times as a kid, once with Just Megan, and now once with our 3 kids.

          I really like seeing the wild life. I remember the bison surrounding our car when I was little, seeing Bald Eagles, Elk with Megan.

          Megan also went to Yellowstone as a kid, but she wouldn't get out of the car because of the smell!

          Images that agree:




          My parents. Grotto Geyser.
          My Mom. I think this is Old Faithful. 
          My Mom. I think this is Old Faithful. 
          You could get a lot closer to the geysers back then. 
          You would see more wildlife in the olden days. 
          My parents. 
          My mom and I at Mesa Falls (near Yellowstone)
          In Jr. High my parents took BJ Morris and I to Yellowstone. I remember buying these shorts at Fred Meyers. 
           
          In Jr. High my parents took BJ Morris and I to Yellowstone. I think this is a place called Big Springs, where you can see a whole bunch of fish, and the water comes right out of a mountain... or this might be fishing bridge...
          Those shorts were awsome. BJ had a max headroom shirt. 
          The Yellowstone Canyon
          My dad at Old Faithful

          Marvin Laub is tough

          1. He recovered from knee and brain surgery, never complaining, and remaining cheerful and up-beat.
          2. He worked hard his whole life. Even at 79 years old he is still working, giving drivers training tests (Its not dangerous. These kids are already driving with their parents for a few months. My dad drives safe places with them, and gives them all very straight forward exams).
          3. He raised 5 kids, without ever really freaking out. You have to endure a lot of stuff to do that, and he did it with great strength.
          My Dad, being tough
          My dad ruff-housing with his kids (I'm the baby).

          Mesa Falls Idaho is worth the trip and is well managed

          1. It is safe to bring your kids, as long as you watch them. Its a pretty good water fall.
          2. Upper Mesa Falls is roughly 114 feet high and 200 feet wide.
          3. Our daughter really liked learning about the animals, going around and touching all the different furs... Maybe she will be a fashion designer some day?
          Best reasons to disagree: -
          1. They should put a zip line across the canyon and charge people to go across.
          2. They should build a safe way to talk down to the river.
          3. They are overly protective of kids picking flowers... This lady yelled at us when our 2 year old picked a wild flower. If flowers are going extentct we should use money to grow them. We should also sell them as extremely rare items, and and use the money we make to farm them. It is nice to have stuff growing in the wild but first we need to ensure their survival. If they are not endangered, and these government-types just like the feeling of power of yelling at parents for allowing their 2 year olds to pick a flower, than we should probably change things... They have parking lots and trails that killed these flowers much worse than my daughter. Their are thousands of miles of back-country that are owned by the federal government that they don't allow roads to be built.. There are places for wild flowers to grow... But if a little girl picks a flower, than to freakin bad... I know... I know... if every little girl who visitied picked a flower, than there might not be as many flowers within 100 or 200 feet of the parking lot of these places... but for Pete's sake, if they are that endangered, we should transplant them to green houses somewhere... I don't see this lady chasing deer away from flowers... I don't see hear going into the back country, if one of these flowers is not getting enough water, and brining it water... give me a break.
          4. Besides just being a place that you look at for a half an hour or so, or have a picknick at, it probably won't be to life altering of a visit. I have heard that you can walk along the canyon edge, and walk down to lower Mesa Falls, but things like that are tough to do with kids.
          Score:
          # of reasons to agree: +3
          # of reasons to disagree: -4
          # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
          # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
          Total Idea Score: -1 

          My mom and I before they built the walk way. 

          Mesa Falls is outside of Yellowstone, was close to where I went to college in 95, 98
          
          Mesa Falls in 1998
          
          Mesa Falls, 2011. Megan and Russ (her Brother)
          
          Mesa Falls, 2011
          At the visitor's center at Mesa Falls standing in-front of  some sort of stuffed animal. 
          

          Rolling Stone's list of Best Albums of all time is a good one


          Background, Context, and Assumptions
          Of course people can judge music by whatever criteria you want. How do you judge good music (don't just say you just like it!). For instance you can judge music by these criteria:

          1. How hard it is to play. For me this is not an important criteria. I guess if you play an instrument, you could enjoy a solo artist really push themselves. Craftsman ship is important. But at the end of the day, you can punch notes into a computer, and a computer could replace Eddie Van Halen's finger, but I hope it could not replace his best lyrics. Lavish craftsmanship looses most all of its appeal when not used to support an important truth.
          2. How innovative it is. Creativity is a great way to decorate music, but you have to have the substance of good music, and a good melody. I have read some great criticisms of experimental a-tonal college music. 
          3. Good songs can just be songs that capture a feeling really well, but in order for a song to be considered great, you would think that you would rank everything a 10... There is nothing wrong with listening to OK songs, but when listing the best songs, you should only include songs that have great lyrics with good meanings, good message, a great melody, etc...

          Rolling Stone's list of Best Songs of all time is a good one
          Best reasons to disagree: -
          1. I would like a list of best albums that totally ignored cover art. I propose that albums should not be judged by cover art, which Rolling Stones mentions many times praising Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. 
          2. I would like to see a list of the best music, that does not reward musicians for trying to be too clever. It seems like that kind of stuff comes and goes, but you can't listen to it very often, because it gets old. Lyrics should not be obscure. People are too afraid to live life, and so they hide any meaning by trying to be clever. Musicians need to learn the importance of being Ernest. 
          3. Good music is music from cool people saying important things in a sincere and beautiful way. Cool people are not people who suck at life. Good music is not music written by self-obsessed losers at the middle of the night, when they can't get their life together after their girl-friend broke up with them. Its not music telling people how cool they are. It is not music from someone you don't respect saying something stupid. It is written by people you can respect, who have lived a good life and have something to say. You shouldn't be allowed to write music when your a teenager. You don't have anything to say. 
          4. Music shouldn't be important because it created the hippy movement, or got girls to stop wearing bras for a few years... The music should be important if it had messages that successful people are able to believe for hundreds of years. 
          Score:
          # of reasons to agree: +0
          # of reasons to disagree: -4
          # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
          # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
          Total Idea Score: +0

          Rolling Stone's list of Best Songs of all time, with reasons to agree or disagree that they are "great" songs
          1 Bob Dylan Like A Rolling Stone
          Best reasons to disagree: -

          1. This song is just some immature looser experiencing schadenfreude when a girl falls. We all know people like this. They are called jerks. It is stupid that some guy going on about how awesome it is is when someone is having a hard time is considered the best our culture has to offer. 
          2 Rolling Stones Satisfaction
          3 John Lennon Imagine

          Best reasons to disagree: -

          1. Communalism does not work 

          4 Marvin Gaye What's Going On
          5 Aretha Franklin Respect
          6 Beach Boys Good Vibrations
          7 Chuck Berry Johnny B. Goode
          8 Beatles Hey Jude
          9 Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit
          10 Ray Charles What'd I Say (Live Berlin) 1962
          11 Who My Generation
          12 Sam Cooke A Change Is Gonna Come
          13 Beatles Yesterday
          14 Bob Dylan Blowin' in The Wind
          15 The Clash London Calling
          16 Beatles I Want To Hold Your Hand
          17 Jimi Hendrix Purple Haze
          18 Chuck Berry Maybellene
          19 Elvis Presley Hound Dog
          20 Beatles Let It Be
          21 Bruce Springsteen Born To Run
          22 The Ronettes Be My Baby
          23 Beatles In My Life
          24 The Impressions People Get Ready
          25 Beach Boys God Only Knows
          26 Otis Redding (Sitting On) The Dock Of The Bay
          27 Derek And The Dominos Layla
          28 Beatles A Day In The Life
          29 Beatles Help
          30 Johnny Cash I Walk The Line
          31 Led Zeppelin Stairway To Heaven
          32 Rolling Stones Sympathy For The Devil
          33 Tina Turner River Deep, Mountain High
          34 The Righteous Brothers You've Lost That Loving Feeling
          35 The Doors Light My Fire
          36 U2 One
          37 Bob Marley No Woman No Cry
          38 Rolling Stones Gimme Shelter
          39 Buddy Holly That'll Be The Day
          40 Martha And The Vandellas Dancing In The Streets
          41 Band The Weight
          42 Kinks Waterloo Sunset
          43 Little Richard Tutti Frutti
          44 Ray Charles Georgia On My Mind
          45 Elvis Presley Heartbreak Hotel
          46 David Bowie Heroes
          47 Jimi Hendrix All Along The Watchtower
          48 Simon And Garfunkel Bridge Over Troubled Water
          49 The Eagles Hotel California
          50 Smokey Robinson The Tracks Of My Tears
          51 Grandmaster Flash The Message
          52 Prince When Doves Cry
          53 Percy Sledge When A Man Loves A Woman
          54 The Kingsmen Louie Louie
          55 Little Richard Long Tall Sally
          56 Sex Pistols Anarchy In The U K
          57 Procol Harum A Whiter Shade Of Pale
          58 Michael Jackson Billie Jean
          59 Bob Dylan The Times They Are A-changin'
          60 Al Green Let's Stay Together
          61 Jerry Lee Lewis Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On
          62 Bo Diddley Bo Diddley
          63 Buffalo Springfield For What It's Worth
          64 Beatles She Loves You
          65 Cream Sunshine Of Your Love
          66 Bob Marley Redemption Song
          67 Elvis Presley Jailhouse Rock
          68 Bob Dylan Tangled Up In Blue
          69 Roy Orbison Crying
          70 Dionne Warwick Walk On By
          71 James Brown Papa's Got A Brand New Bag, Pt.1
          72 Beach Boys California Girls
          73 Stevie Wonder Superstition
          74 Cochran Eddie Summertime Blues
          75 Led Zeppelin Whole Lotta Love
          76 Beatles Strawberry Fields Forever
          77 Elvis Presley Mystery Train
          78 James Brown I Feel Good
          79 The Byrds Mr. Tambourine Man
          80 Kinks You Really Got Me
          81 Marvin Gaye I Heard It Through The Grapevine
          82 Fats Domino Blueberry Hill
          83 Beatles Norwegian Wood (this Bird Has Flown)
          84 The Police Every Breath You Take
          85 Patsy Cline Crazy
          86 Bruce Springsteen Thunder Road
          87 Johnny Cash Ring Of Fire
          88 Temptations My Girl
          89 The Mamas & The Papas California Dreamin'
          90 The Five Satins In The Still Of The Night
          91 Elvis Presley Suspicious Minds
          92 The Ramones Blitzkrieg Bop
          93 U2 I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
          94 Little Richard Good Golly Miss Molly
          95 Carl Perkins Blue Suede Shoes
          96 Jerry Lee Lewis Great Balls Of Fire
          97 Chuck Berry Roll Over Beethoven
          98 Al Green Love And Happiness
          99 Creedence Clearwater Revival Fortunate Son
          100 Gnarls Barkley Crazy


          Rolling Stone's list of Best Albums of all time is a good one

          Find reasons to agree or disagree that the albums below deserve their spot.

          1 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band The Beatles 1967
          Best reasons to disagree: -

          1. The first song on the album "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" has no meaning. It is nonsense  We are a stupid species if we are still playing it, outside of a history lesson, for personal enjoyment, 200 years from now. The words could be in a language that you don't understand, and the song would be better for you because they wouldn't distract you. Lyrics should make you think. It might be fine for them to set up the album with an alternative band, so they could do whatever they wanted, but they didn't have to subject us to it, and we shouldn't keep playing it, as if it is still important or insightful. You shouldn't be nostalgic over stupid things. If this song means anything to you, you are stupid. 

          2 Pet Sounds Beach Boys 1966
          3 Revolver The Beatles 1966
          4 Highway 61 Revisited Bob Dylan 1965
          5 Rubber Soul The Beatles 1965
          6 What's Going On Marvin Gaye 1971
          7 Exile On Main St. Rolling Stones 1972
          8 London Calling The Clash 1979
          9 Blonde On Blonde Bob Dylan 1966
          10 The Beatles (The White Album) The Beatles 1968
           
          11 The Sun Sessions Elvis Presley 1976
          12 Kind Of Blue Miles Davis 1959
          13 Velvet Underground & Nico Velvet Underground 1967
          14 Abbey Road The Beatles 1969
          15 Are You Experienced? Jimi Hendrix Experience 1967
          16 Blood On The Tracks Bob Dylan 1975
          17 Nevermind Nirvana 1991
          18 Born To Run Bruce Springsteen 1975
          19 Astral Weeks Van Morrison 1968
          20 Thriller Michael Jackson 1982
           
          21 The Great Twenty-Eight Chuck Berry 1982
          22 Plastic Ono Band John Lennon 1970
          23 Innervisions Stevie Wonder 1973
          24 Live At The Apollo James Brown 1963
          25 Rumours Fleetwood Mac 1977
          26 The Joshua Tree U2 1987
          27 King Of The Delta Blues Singers, Vol. 1 Robert Johnson 1961
          28 Who's Next The Who 1971
          29 Led Zeppelin I Led Zeppelin 1969
          30 Blue Joni Mitchell 1971
           
          31 Bringing It All Back Home Bob Dylan 1965
          32 Let It Bleed Rolling Stones 1969
          33 Ramones Ramones 1976
          34 Music From Big Pink The Band 1968
          35 The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars David Bowie 1972
          36 Tapestry Carole King 1971
          37 Hotel California The Eagles 1976
          38 The Anthology, 1947 - 1972 Muddy Waters 2001
          39 Please Please Me The Beatles 1963
          40 Forever Changes Love 1968
           
          41 Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols Sex Pistols 1977
          42 The Doors The Doors 1967
          43 Dark Side Of The Moon Pink Floyd 1973
          44 Horses Patti Smith 1975
          45 The Band The Band 1969
          46 Legend Bob Marley & The Wailers 1984
          47 A Love Supreme John Coltrane 1964
          48 It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back Public Enemy 1988
          49 At Fillmore East Allman Brothers Band 1971
          50 Here's Little Richard Little Richard 1957
           
          51 Bridge Over Troubled Water Simon & Garfunkel 1970
          52 Greatest Hits Al Green 1975
          53 The Birth of Soul: The Complete Atlantic Rhythm and Blues Recordings, 1952 - 1959 Ray Charles 1991
          54 Electric Ladyland Jimi Hendrix Experience 1968
          55 Elvis Presley Elvis Presley 1956
          56 Songs In The Key Of Life Stevie Wonder 1976
          57 Beggars Banquet Rolling Stones 1968
          58 Trout Mask Replica Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band 1969
          59 Meet The Beatles! The Beatles 1964
          60 Greatest Hits Sly & The Family Stone 1970
           
          61 Appetite For Destruction Guns N' Roses 1987
          62 Achtung Baby U2 1991
          63 Sticky Fingers Rolling Stones 1971
          64 Phil Spector, Back to Mono (1958 - 1969) various artists 1991
          65 Moondance Van Morrison 1970
          66 Led Zeppelin IV Led Zeppelin 1971
          67 The Stranger Billy Joel 1977
          68 Off The Wall Michael Jackson 1979
          69 Superfly Curtis Mayfield 1972
          70 Physical Graffiti Led Zeppelin 1975
           
          71 After The Gold Rush Neil Young 1970
          72 Purple Rain Prince 1984
          73 Back In Black AC/DC 1980
          74 Otis Blue: Otis Redding Singles Soul Otis Redding 1965
          75 Led Zeppelin II Led Zeppelin 1969
          76 Imagine John Lennon 1971
          77 The Clash The Clash 1977
          78 Harvest Neil Young 1972
          79 Star Time James Brown 1991
          80 Odessey & Oracle The Zombies 1968
           
          81 Graceland Paul Simon 1986
          82 Axis: Bold As Love Jimi Hendrix Experience 1968
          83 I Never Loved A Man The Way I Love You Aretha Franklin 1967
          84 Lady Soul Aretha Franklin 1968
          85 Born In The U.S.A. Bruce Springsteen 1984
          86 Let It Be The Beatles 1970
          87 The Wall Pink Floyd 1979
          88 Johnny Cash At Folsom Prison Johnny Cash 1968
          89 Dusty In Memphis Dusty Springfield 1968
          90 Talking Book Stevie Wonder 1972
           
          91 Goodbye Yellow Brick Road Elton John 1973
          92 20 Golden Greats Buddy Holly 1978
          93 Sign O' The Times Prince 1987
          94 Bitches Brew Miles Davis 1970
          95 Green River Creedence Clearwater Revival 1969
          96 Tommy The Who 1969
          97 The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan Bob Dylan 1963
          98 This Year's Model Elvis Costello 1978
          99 There's A Riot Goin' On Sly & The Family Stone 1972
          100 In The Wee Small Hours Frank Sinatra 1954

          We can create a better list of really great songs than Rolling Stone Magazine
          (Songs that aren't afraid of having meaning)
          Best reasons to agree: -

          1. Time by Pink Floyd is better than any of the top 10 songs on the Rolling Stone List. Your life would not be missing anything important if you never listened to "Like a Rolling Stone" by Bob Dillion. But I would feel a little bad for you if you have never really listened to Time by Pink floyed.
            Time has an important message that you should not let your life slip by. It doesn't really tell you what to do, but it much better than the other songs.
          2. Cats in the Cradle by Harry Chapin has a great message. It tells you that you get out of a relationship what you put into it, and that you should sieze the day. These are important messsenges, and they are done well in the song.
          3. Forever Young is a good song, because it expresses a real emotion, that is productive to explore. Thinking about mortality is benificial unlike the way that Bob Dillion is just expressing his joy at someone who used to be Rich, getting their come-up-ins in his song "Like A Rolling Stone", that Rolling Stone was the highest achiviment of Western Music.
          4. Hallelujah by Rufus Wainwright summerizes a lot of history and relationships in an insightful way.
          5. Just The Two Of Us by Will Smith allows people who are overly concerned with looking manley, see themselves as good dads.
          6. You can disagree with Charlene but "I've Never Been To Me" makes her argument about what is important in life very well.
          7. "Kiss An Angel Good Morning" by Charley Pride gives practical marriage advice. One by Creed is sort of Cheesy, but it is a great call for unity.
          8. What A Wonderful World by Louis Armstrong has a great message of appreciation. Armstrongs voice is great.