http://myclob.pbwiki.com/Doonesbury

No one expects the funny pages to reflect the same level of journalistic fairness that news pages do, but when a cartoonist gets it as wrong as Garry Trudeau did recently, it's worth taking the time to correct the record. Some people may think it silly to challenge the "facts" that turn up on the comics page, but Gary Trudeau missed the boat so badly a few weeks ago somebody needs to say something.

Garry Trudeau has made a tidy living for the past four decades poking fun at pop culture and politics, but his pen shouldn't come with a license to blatantly distort the truth and that's what he did on with Mitt Romney. Comics are meant to make us laugh, and I like a good yuk as much as anyone, but there's nothing funny about the mean-spirited mistruths Garry Trudeau tried passing off as satire in a recent strip.

Here is the strip:

 

 

Smug Liberal DJ: What are you saying, Governor Romney? That you've flipped on gay rights? A person as principled as you? Ain't Goinga happen!

Romney: Well

Arrogant Liberal DJ: I mean what would be next? Changing your stances on Abortion and gun control? No way, Jose!

Romney: Um… Actually…

Egotistical DJ : Mitt Romney, repudiating his core beliefs for a shot at the presidency? Forget it! He has too much integrity!

Romney: I don't, I don't! I swear!

Cappuccino sipping, goatee wearing self righteous DJ : I'm not listening! No, na, na, na, na

So lets take these one at a time. According to Gary Trudeau Romney, "flipped on gay rights". This simply is not true. Google "Mitt Romney". Go to the 2nd page. It is " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney". Then go to #Same-sex marriage. You will read;

 
"When he ran for governor in 2002, Romney declared his opposition to both same-sex marriage and civil unions. "Call me old fashioned, but I don't support gay marriage nor do I support civil union," said Romney in an October 2002 gubernatorial debate. McElhenny, John. "Shannon O'Brien supports gay marriage" Daily Collegian October 16, 2002. Retrieved December 10, 2006

During his 1994 campaign against Senator Edward Kennedy, Romney said that same-sex marriage "is not appropriate at this time" and pointed out that marriage was regulated under the jurisdiction of state laws. He also said his voice, as a Republican, would carry more weight on lesbian and gay issues than Kennedy's, even if they took the same position on issues like allowing gays and lesbians in the military.

So Doonesbury is just a lie. Romney has not changed. He, like all politicians, does not support all gay rights, but supports many gay rights. Romney has not changed which specific gay rights he supports.

It's one thing to note in Doonesbury that gays should be treated with respect. But it is wrong to try to advance your cause by trying by lie about people who do not agree with you 100%.

It is stupid to selectively point at early statements of moderates that you agree with, and then point at unrelated current comments that you disagree with, and try and say that the person has changed, as though the only valid position, then in now, is an extreme pro or con position.

Using Doonesbury to draw attention to the this complicated issue is important. But no matter how right you think your side is, it is wrong to lie about, oversimplify, or miss characterize the other side. The desire to present a clever, controversial, or PC statement, should not override the need for a rational argument based in the facts.

If the Doonesbury creator had suggested that Mitt Romney is wrong, I could respect him for that. He is welcome to his opinion. But when you make claims, like asserting that Mitt Romney has "flip-flopped" on the issue, you had better get your facts straight, and Mitt Romney has not changed his position.

For more "origianl" documents that document Mitt Romney's position on this issue go here:

http://myclob.pbwiki.com/Marriage

Mitt Romney has said:

 "I agree with the President on the need for a federal marriage amendment that defines marriage as the union of a man and a woman. As I've said before, amending the U.S. Constitution may be the best and most reliable way to prevent a patchwork of inconsistent marriage laws between states and to guard against overreaching by the judicial branch. Acts of lawlessness in San Francisco bring into even sharper focus the need to proceed with the process of amending the Constitution. I don't think anyone ever imagined that we would have courts and local officials defining marriage in a way that has no historical precedent whatsoever, and claiming it's been in the Constitution all along. Of course, we must conduct this debate with decency, tolerance and respect for those with different opinions. The definition of marriage is so fundamental to society that it should not be decided by one court in Massachusetts or by one mayor in San Francisco. In America, the people should decide. In America, the people are fair and tolerant. Let the people decide."

* Governor Mitt Romney, 02-24-2004 Press Release

To see questions that reporters have asked Mitt Romney on the issue, with his answers, go here:

http://myclob.pbwiki.com/Gay%20Rights

I do not question Gary T's motives. I believe he is honestly doing what he things is right. However I believe he is misdirected. You shouldn't have to lie about your political opponents in order to win the debate. Mitt Romney agrees with Gary T, that we need to protect the rights of gays.

Romney has said;

"Preserving the definition of marriage should not infringe on the right of individuals to live in the manner of their choosing. One person may choose to live as a single, even to have and raise her own child. Others may choose to live in same sex partnerships or civil arrangements. There is an unshakeable majority of opinion in this country that we should cherish and protect individual rights with tolerance and understanding. "

"This is a subject about which people have tender emotions in part because it touches individual lives... like me, the great majority of Americans wish both to preserve the traditional definition of marriage and to oppose bias and intolerance directed towards gays and lesbians."

Governor Mitt Romney, 06-22-2004 Press Release

But just because Romney can see the need to protect gays does not mean that he oversimplifies the issue, and demonize those who disagree with him.

The Doonsbery cartoon accuses Mitt Romney of changing his position on gays, with out giving one example of a change. But then it accuses Mitt Romney of liyng for political advantage. It is Ironic that Doonsbery has to lie in order to call Mitt Romney a liar.

This from Dean Barnett, Hugh Hewitt's co-blogger:

On the day the decision went into effect, dozens of gay couples descended on Massachusetts' city and town halls to get married. The TV cameras sought out Governor Romney for his response to the day's events. The media no doubt expected him to toss some red meat to the knuckle-dragging conservatives that Romney was courting in anticipation of a presidential bid. Instead, Romney pleaded that the public and gay marriage critics in particular bear in mind that this was a happy and joyous day for many individuals, and act respectfully and accordingly.

If you saw him deliver that sentiment on the news, you could see it was heartfelt. You could also see that Mitt Romney would not square with the stereotypical (and of course mistaken) view of a gay marriage opponent. He was not a hater and not a homophobe. Rather, he was a decent man who thought the policy of gay marriage was an unwise one and, regardless of the policy's wisdom, was disappointed in the judicial overreach that brought it into being.

People who think that they have to demonize and lie about people in order to advance their agenda, are only building up resentment, and hatred from the other side. Mitt Romney has done more to bring respect and tolerence to gays than Doonsberry. By lying about people like Mitt Romney, and James Dobson, Doonsbery has only gotten people more angry. Much like Ted Kennedy, Doonsbery is standing in the way of progress on gay rights, no matter how smug and self rightous he feels about himself.

Dean Barnett, a supporter of gay rights says this:

Romney spent a solid chunk of the '94 campaign expressing his tolerance and acceptance for homosexuals. Naturally, nothing he could say in this regard would satisfy his critics. If he didn't explicitly condemn the teachings of his church, his critics would continue to bray. And bray they did, from practically the first day of his campaign until the last.

It was in this context that Romney made his now-famous comments in a 1994 interview with Bay Windows, a Boston newspaper that caters to the gay community. Among his observations were these:

I feel that as a society and for me as an individual, it's incumbent on all of us to respect one another, regardless of our differences and beliefs, our differences in sexual orientation, in race and that America has always been a place, and should be a place, to welcome and tolerate people's differences.

I personally feel and one of my core beliefs is that we should accept people of all backgrounds and recognize everyone as a brother and a sister because we are all part of the family of man.

Attacking people like Mitt Romney, Doonsbery shows who the real entolerent people are.

Dean Barnett continues:

I spent a decent amount of time with Romney in '94, and got to know him reasonably well. He's not a hater. He's not a bigot. He's not a homophobe. No one who has worked with him or who actually has known him in any capacity says otherwise. And this is a man who has led a prominent and powerful business life.

Romney is also a traditionalist. He does not believe that institutions such as marriage should be mucked with. And he certainly doesn't believe that such institutions should be playthings for a gaggle of unelected officials who happen to wear black robes for a living.

In other words, his opposition to gay marriage is based on good faith differences with gay marriage proponents regarding where a particular legal line should be drawn. And by good faith, I mean that he arrives at his position not out of hate, bigotry or political calculation, but out of a true sense of moral conviction regarding what is best and noblest for our society.

On where the legal line should be drawn on gay marriage, he and I happen to differ. Unlike Romney, and unlike most of the readers of this site, I have no problem with legalizing gay marriage. But unlike Romney's critics, I know that the difference is a good faith one, and not the result of those I disagree with making venal calculations or indulging their prejudiced natures.

The preceding is the part that some narrow-minded gay marriage proponents just can't get. They think that if you're against gay marriage, you are necessarily a hater and by definition a homophobe. That's just not so.

Another thing regarding Romney and gay marriage warrants mentioning: This was not a fight he sought. Even given the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court's prior reckless disregard for precedent and the democratic process, no one foresaw the SJC discovering a pre-existing right to gay marriage in the Commonwealth's 220 year old Constitution. Even by the SJC's own lofty standards for such things, it was a stunning piece of judicial arrogance. In short, it was not part of a Romney master-plan to be the anti-gay marriage candidate.

Critics of Evangelicals and Fundamentalists think the key to winning their support is to be the most-narrow minded and hate-filled candidate in the field. These critics chronically lament the bigotry of these specifically identifiable communities while crudely and cruelly caricaturizing them; it is a perverse credit to these critics that they never betray any sense of irony while doing so.

One of the reasons Mitt Romney will be increasingly successful as more people get to know him is because he is the real deal – Mitt is a good, honest and decent man. And those are far from his only virtues. But those are the virtues that Republicans of all religious and ethnic affiliations hunger for most in their '08 standard bearer.

It doesn't take much effort to discover that Romney has not changed his position on Gay Marriage. Then how is it that so many people people in the MSM blindly repeat it? Because the MSM is stupid. They are all sheeps. They all live in an echo chamber. If a democrate critisizes a republican, they will blindley repeat the name calling, without even thinking about it. Their is no better example of this than the way the MSM has treated Mitt Romney.

Trudeau appears to support gay marriage, as the cartoon's second-to-last panel indicates. Maybe that's why he took this unwarranted shot at Romney, a vocal proponent of defending marriage as the union of one man and one woman.

Trudeau's liberalism and his apparent desire to see someone named Clinton, Obama or Edwards elected in 2008 is not surprising. That he'd simply make up lies about Romney to express that point is.

You don't have to be a fan of Romney's, in fact, you can pretty much reject everything he stands for and still see that he wasn't treated fairly here.

Dislike the guy as much as you want, but it's not Romney whose blind allegiance to a political ideology is on display here.

Doonesbury vs. America

Mitt Romney and Michigan

 

  • Apr 27, 2007; Governor Mitt Romney's Remarks at the Livingston County, Michigan Lincoln Day Dinner
  • Apr 13, 2007; Michigan State Representative Fulton Sheen To Lead Families Effort
  • Apr 12, 2007; Governor Mitt Romney Names West Michigan Leadership Team
  • Mar 16, 2007; State Representative Dave Hildenbrand to Lead Governor Mitt Romney's Michigan Sportsmen Effort
  • Mar 05, 2007; Governor Mitt Romney Announces Michigan Grassroots Steering Committee
  • Feb 15, 2007; Governor Mitt Romney Announces Michigan "Romney" Caucus

 

Representative Dave Camp of Michigan

With his family by his side, Governor Romney announced his intention to run for the Presidency of the United States of America in Dearborn, Michigan and later traveled to campaign in Des Moines, Iowa.

Romney in New York

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYforMitt/

 

On Thursday, April 26, Governor Mitt Romney traveled to New York, NY, to deliver the keynote address at the Yeshiva University Sy Syms School of Business Gala.

 

 

 

http://myclob.pbwiki.com/New-York

New to Team Mitt

Hi, I am new to Team Mitt. I live in Morton Grove. I would love to know about campaign activities in my area.


Questions for Governor Mitt Romney

 

Actual questions asked from Mitt Romney Interviews, organized by subject. Click on the question for the answer.

This would make a great tool for anyone who is interviewing Mitt. You can see the questions that have already been asked a number of times, and which ones still need to be asked.

Ann and Mitt's Relationship

  1. Do you remember the first time you saw the governor ?
  2. Why did you marry Ann?
  3. How many children do you have?

 Abortion

  1. So do you now believe that abortion is murder ?
  2. should women who have abortions and doctors who perform them be jailed ?
  3. if it's killing, why should states have leeway ?
  4. what do you believe the punishment should be for an abortion ?
  5. Have you changed your opinion on Abortion ?
  6. What is your current position on abortion ?
  7. How do you account for your change on abortion ?
  8. Were you faking it when you said you were pro-choice ?
  9. Do you support making abortion illegal ?
  10. What do you think about the partial-birth abortion ban ?

Asia

  1. Governor, you recently got back from a trip to Asia. What were you doing there ?
  2. Did you have qualms going to China?

Business

  1. What does Bain do?
  2. what impact did you have on the creation of Staples ?
  3. how old were you when the Staples thing started ?
  4. What other boards have you served on ?
  5. Have you had a failure that you can talk about in business ?

Bush

  1. Do you have any problems with the president's policy on Iraq ?
  2. Where do you disagree with Bush on Iraq ?

Brain Washing

  1. Well, you know, if you ever look at the history of your father and running for president, they all say the same thing, it's all the "brainwashing" comment. Why would that have been the issue? I mean, why would he have been accused of saying something stupid about being brainwashed in Vietnam?

Background

  1. Why did you pick Mitt over Willard?
  2. Where were you born?

Character

  1. How do you convince voters that some of these changes are sincere, coming from conviction?

Campaign

  1. So how's the campaign going for you so far ?
  2. What's the question you get asked most ?
  3. How do you turn your money advantage into a win ?

Conservatives

  1. What are some of the things you would offer conservatives ?
  2. Do you regret comments you made about Jesse Helms and Ronald Reagan ?

Decision to Run for President

  1. When you decided not to run again for governor, how much did your thought of running for president enter into that discussion?

Divorce

  1. Is divorse something voters should take into account ?

Education

  1. In you history, it includes Stanford for how long ?
  2. You finished first in your class at Brigham Young University in Utah ?
  3. Why did you go to Brigham Young?
  4. How did you -- how were able to get an MBA and a law degree at the same time?
  5. And clearly it would be why you did well and, as you know, you finished well enough to give the valedictory address -- the question I want to ask you though is why do you think you did well? Other than having a lot of brainpower, did you have an approach to education?

George Romney

  1. Why did your father not give you any of his inheritance ?
  2. Did he have a philosophy that he didn't want to pass on a lot of money to his kids.
  3. When you father thought of running for president in '64, and then actually ran for a while in '68, how old were you in those years and what did you experience during that time?
  4. You can't be born out of the country and run for president, how did that work?
  5. And when did he move to Utah?
  6. At some point I noticed you were on the Points of Light Foundation board, but you go back to either your father starting the volunteer organization that merged into Points of Light? Explain that.
  7. How are you different from your father ?

Gay Rights

  1. Should gays and lesbians be able to serve openly and honestly in the military?
  2. Do you want to tell our viewers why you disagree with Mary Cheney ?
  3. Would you accept another endorsement from the Log Cabin Republicans if it was offered to you?
  4. Have your positions on gay rights changed ?
  5. Do you want to change don't ask don't tell ?

Governorship

  1. Do you regret at all not running for reelection as governor ?

Guns

  1. When did you join the NRA?

Judges

  1. Would you appoint judges like Scalia, Thomas, and Alito .

Healthcare

  1. Do you think the country should have a Massachusetts healthcare plan .
  2. How did the president miss an opportunity when he created the Medicare prescription drug benefit?
  3. What are you doing for the half million uninsured in Massachusetts ?
  4. Are garnishing of wages even and tax penalties part of your plan ?
  5. What is the penalty of not having health insurance ?
  6. Where is the pushback coming back on this proposal ?
  7. What is your health insurance plan?

Iraq

  1. Do you keep Bush or let him go?
  2. But how do you explain why all that planning wasn't done ?
  3. Yet, you support the president's decision to send more troops right now?
  4. Are you confident the surge is going to work ?
  5. Would you agree that we can't stop the Iraqi from killing each other?
  6. What's your impression of the job Rumsfeld did ?
  7. Do you believe it's still fixable at this point ?
  8. What happens if Iraq is not successful ?
  9. Where do you disagree with Bush on Iraq ?
  10. Do you have a time frame in mind?
  11. Do you support sending more troops into that country ?
  12. Do you think right now the US is losing the war in Iraq ?
  13. What did you make of the Iraq Study Group ?
  14. What do you think about Harry Reid saying the war is lost ?
  15. Would you have gone into Iraq?
  16. Do you think enough questions were asked in March of 2003 ?

Iran

  1. Does the president have the authority he needs to take military action against Iran?
  2. what are the big issues?
  3. How could you fix the budget?
  4. Now you describe yourself as a Reagan Republican Describe the journey .
  5. Would you go to war if the Iranians say, we're going to develop a nuclear weapon, you can't stop us ?
  6. Would Iran acquire nuclear weapons under a Romney administration ?

Immigration

  1. Are you in favor of a fence?

Internet

  1. Why do you think it is important to dedicate resources to the internet.

Khatami visit to Harvard

  1. Can you explain to the audience your reaction to the visa issued to the Ayatollah?
  2. What does Massachusetts typically extend to Harvard in terms of assistance when such a dignitary arrives?

Law

  1. What do you think of the Supreme Court's decision on eminent domain?

Massachusetts

  1. Why did you pick Massachusetts as a place to stay after school ?

Mormonism

  1. Who was Brigham Young?
  2. Well, if you go back -- and I found the name Pratt in your background who was some circuitous route related to Joseph Smith who was one of the founders of Mormonism.
  3. Are you prepared to deal with attacks on your religion ?
  4. Do you have an evangelical problem?
  5. Has there been a mood change in the country about the importance of talking about religion?
  6. Has there been a mood change in the country about the importance of talking about religion?
  7. How does your faith inform your politics ?
  8. One place that I found that you almost died (His Mission)
  9. Are you a cultist?
  10. How do you deal with the fact that you are a Mormon ?
  11. Are you prepared to deal with what is bound to be attacks from the media and opponents about your religious faith ?
  12. Will evangelicals support a Mormon?
  13. Will an exposé on Mormon Christmas celebrations hurt you in the primaries?
  14. You are 47 now?

Media

  1. Does the mainstream media have double standards for Republicans ?

MSM

  1. What was your worst moments with the MSM ?

North Korea

  1. Is the president nuclear deal with North Korea a good one .

Politics

  1. How did you get elected governor of the state of Massachusetts ?
  2. Are you a flip-flopper?
  3. Your response to the fight between Rove, Hillary, Durbin, and Pataki ?
  4. What do you think of Massachusetts politics ?

Personality

  1. What type of leader are you?

Personalities

  1. What would you copy from what Bush has done, if anything ?
  2. Why is Dwight Eisenhower one of your favorite presidents ?

Personal

  1. What's a normal day like?
  2. What time do you get up?
  3. What's the toughest personal crisis you've ever had to face ?
  4. Are you worried that the stress of the campaign may inflame the MS ?
  5. Tell me something about yourself that only people who know you well know?
  6. Who is your favorite President?
  7. Do you like any Democratic presidents ?
  8. How tech savvy are you?

Politics

  1. For people who don't know much about you, where do you stand on the political spectrum?
  2. How do you beat Republicans who are so much better known than you are?
  3. Are you really running for vice president ?

Presidency

  1. Why would you like to be president?

Religion

  1. Does the country know enough about radical islam ?
  2. Do you stand by your use of the word Islamic-facism ?

Romney administration

  1. What would be the role of bloggers in a Romney administration ?

Security

  1. How has the Bush administration handled this whole ports deal ?

Sports

  1. What do you think of what happened to Bode Miller and his attitude ?

Stem Cells

  1. Do you oppose embryonic stem cell research ?

Taxes

  1. Why did you sign a pledge ruling out any tax increases ?

Va Tech tragedy

  1. Should NBC have shown the Cho video ?
  2. What security changes that need to happen on college campuses ?
  3. What changes should we make to our gun control laws ?
  4. What would your stance be on a federal assault weapons ban (in light of Va Tech)?

Romney should join flickr.

 

Reasons to agree

  1. Flickr is a free way to store photos.
  2. Flickr is owned by Yahoo. Yahoo has thousands of employees. Yahoo employees would be more likely to look at Romney photos, and therefore learn about him, if he used flickr.
  3. Thousands of people use flickr. Flickr users would be more likely to look at Romney photos if he had a flickr account, and therefore learn about him, if he used flickr.
  4. Barak Obama has a flickr account link featured prominently on his front page.
  5. Mitt Romney's photos have some major problems. Users can not tag them, identify themselves if they are in the or comment on them. When users "tag" a photo in flickr, they help organize the photo, so Google, Yahoo, and MSN will know where that photo is, and what it is, and promote it in a Google, Yahoo, or MSN image search. If Romney got his picture taken with some Iowa students, and put that picture on his Flickr account, the Iowa students could identify themselves in the photo, and help promote the photo, out of their own interest. Putting photos into flickr is just one more way that a candidate can interact with the user. People can comment on the photo, give you feedback, and interact with you. It makes looking at your photos more interesting, because it is a game for them, that they can participate in... they can comment on, and discuss your photos, and interact with them.

Click here for more advice for Romney.

Click here to see my flickr account.

Here are all the tags that I have used to describe my photos. If you click here you will see the photos I have taken in Idaho. If Mitt Romney did that, and you could see all of his photos in Iowa, I think he would get more Iowa supporters.

Romney needs to embrace all these new technologies that let people find information about him faster, easier, and in a fun way.
 

Mitt Romney and the Estate Tax.

 

 

The estate tax is an interesting issue for Mitt Romney. Romney was a CEO that saved Bain Capital, and the 2002 Winter Olympics, but his father was credited for saving American Motor Company from bankruptcy (until he left). Anyways his dad had a lot of money but didn't give him any. I guess Romney had stocks his dad had given him, that he sold to help pay for his education, and then his dad gave some money to Mitt's kids, but Romney didn't get any of it.

 

When asked by Brian Lamb, "By the way, why did your father not give you any of his inheritance?" Romney said; "Well, he didn't have as much as I think some people anticipated. And I did get a check from my dad when he passed away. I shouldn't say a check, but I did inherit some funds from my dad. But I turned and gave that away to charity. In this case I gave it to a school which Brigham Young University established in his honor, the George W. Romney School of Public Management. And as an institute of public management, it helps young people learn about government and about serving in public service. And that's where his inheritance ended up."

 

So I'm kind of confused. I guess Mitt didn't get much money from his dad while George was alive, and I guess Mitt gave his portion of the money, when George died, to BYU. I don't know if Mitt's brothers and sisters got some money or not.

 

I guess Brian Lamb was still kind of confused and asked, "Did he have a philosophy that he didn't want to pass on a lot of money to his kids?" To which Mitt said, "Well, I don't think he had as much as some people might have imagined. And he spent his money on things he cared about (he didn't care about his kids?) . He was a real champion of volunteerism (George Romney started the organization that latter become the points of light foundation). So he funded volunteer efforts and worked to support the things he cared about. My kids got some money from my mom and dad. They are happy that they were able to receive some funds. That helped them in their education and getting started in life. But in my case, I figured we had enough of our own."

 

Mitt never really answered why his dad hadn't given more money to him why he was alive, and I don't feel like I fully understood the contents of George Romney's will.

 

But still their is enough information to be very interesting. Mitt Romney is a self made billionaire. He never worked for his father's company, and his father was retired from business, and serving his country by the time Mitt even started college. Mitt worked his way up the strategic business consulting ladder, from the as far down the bottom of a ladder as someone a Cume Laude graduates from Harvard business and Law School can start. Now he is a billionaire after making a very good salary as a CEO and investing very well. What is he going to do with his money, when he dies?

 

Here is a hint:

 

 

 

Questions for Romney

  1. Why did your father not give you any of his inheritance ?
  2. Did he have a philosophy that he didn't want to pass on a lot of money to his kids?

 

 

The estate tax is good.

 

Background

 

The federal estate-tax rate is 45% on every dollar above a $1.5 million exemption. In many states the combined federal/state tax on dying rises above 50%. This means that the government can take a larger share of the business, home and savings that a citizen builds up over a lifetime than would go to his heirs.

 

People who don't like the estate tax call it the death tax, because it sounds kind of morbid taking money from a dead guy/girl.

 

People who like the estate tax, call it the estate tax, because none of us like the rich.

 

Reasons to agree

  1. The estate tax is a great way to ensure that those in the aristocracy, and that end up ruling over us, deserve to rule over us. There is always going to be an aristocracy, but I want it to be those who really are better than us, not those who's parents were better than our parents.
  2. Thomas Paine supported the estate tax .
  3. Andrew Carnegie supported the estate tax .
  4. Theodore Roosevelt supported the estate tax .
  5. Warren Buffett supports the estate tax .
  6. The fact that Paris Hilton is a billionaire, proves that our society is unfair.
  7. It is not healthy for a country to have a group of people that never have to work a day in their lives .
  8. Most people would rather get taxed after they are dead.
  9. Even with the estate tax parents can pass billions of dollars onto their children.
  10. Even with the estate tax parents can pass the first 1.5 million dollars onto their kids tax free.
  11. Parents can still help their children without having to let parents hand billions to their kids tax free .
  12. Work is good.
  13. If it was bad for welfare-moms to be idle, then it is bad for estate-kids to be idle.
  14. Too many Americans live with a sense of entitlement because of their wealth.

 

Reasons to disagree

  1. The estate tax breaks the bonds between generations .
  2. It is wrong to tax money twice.
  3. The money the government would take when collecting the estate taxed was already taxed when the parents earned the money.
  4. Maybe the kids don't deserve the money, but governments don't have the right to just step in and take it .
  5. Spreading the money equally between citizens is called socialism .
  6. Russia eliminated its inheritance tax in 2005.
  7. Sweden, the birthplace of the modern-day welfare state, eliminated its estate tax in 2005.
  8. The estate tax tax is unjust.
  9. The estate tax is economically counterproductive .
  10. Argentina does not have an estate tax.
  11. Australia does not have an estate tax.
  12. Canada does not have an estate tax.
  13. Mexico does not have an estate tax.
  14. Switzerland does not have an estate tax.
  15. India does not have an estate tax.
  16. The US has the largest death tax in the industrialized world.
  17. The third policy plank of Marx's Communist Manifesto is taxation of all inheritance.
  18. The more power you give the government, the more power it will take.
  19. the Death Tax unfairly impacts families, farmers, ranchers and small businesses.

More Romney in SC photos

Governor Mitt Romney traveled to South Carolina to share breakfast with campaign supporters at Sunset Grill in West Columbia, meet with business leaders at Hudson's Smokehouse in Lexington and announce the support of Lieutenant General Claudius "Bud" Elmer Watts III and Brigadier General Thomas R. Mikolajcik at Patriots Point in Mount Pleasant. Romney finished they day by speaking at the Charleston County GOP Convention.

 http://myclob.pbwiki.com/South-Carolina

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I was listening to Michael Savage talk aobut the need for better mental health care, in relation to what has happened with this Cho. Cho was ruled Mentally ill by court; but let go after a hospital visit. It seems to me that we don't want to tell anyone that there is anything wrong with them. Like we don't want to hurt their feelings...

Apparently Virginia Tech knew he had health problems, but didn't tell his room-mate!

I have an adopted brother who is homeless in LA who has schizophrenia. The issue of mental health care means a lot to me. My brother was told by a psychologist that he had schizophrenia, while he was living with my parents. My parents tried for years to figure out what was wrong with him, and this information from the psycologist would have helped.

Hillary is right. It does take a village or community. I'm glad their was a professional psychologist. Romney is also right. It takes a family. My parents can not take care of my brother. They are 72 years old. They need help, but they need to be included. I wish that this psychologist had worked better with my parents. I wish Cho's psychologist, who said that he was mentally ill, had worked better to protect the community from him.

The problem is that no one seems to look at our institutions holistically. That, I guess, is the lesson learned from Thomas P. Barnett's, The Pentagon's New Map. That is also what Mitt Romney is trying to get to when he says; " Goldwater-Nichols Act removed barriers to unify efforts across the services. This included establishing "joint commands ".

The whole system needs a stem-to-stern review.

Those who have read his book turnaround, or witnessed him first hand at the 2002 winter olympics, can't help but support Romney, because of the wholistic approach that he brings to problem solving.

Do you see a pattern from the following statement?

Too often we struggle to integrate our military and civilian instruments of national power into coherent, timely and effective operations. When facing the need to strengthen the democratic underpinnings of a country like Lebanon, our education, health, banking, energy, commerce, law enforcement and diplomatic resources are in separate bureaucracies, all under separate leadership, all protecting their own powers and their own prerogatives. So while we watched, Hezbollah brought healthcare and schools to the Lebanese. Guess who the people followed when conflict ensued? The same thing happened with Hamas and the Palestinians.

What does any of this have to do with Cho or my brother?

Read the following:

"As the Haleigh Poutre case demonstrates, errors in human judgment occur. What is unusual is how many people involved in Haleigh's care – medical professionals, case workers and administrators from many disciplines – made errors. I welcome new systems and processes that will identify and guard against circumstances where human error may have severe consequences."
Governr Mitt Romney,
03-21-2006 Press Release

Do you see the similarities? It's not a specific healthcare, military, or mental health problem. There is a problem with everything. Everything in America is a beurocratic nightmare where "administrators from many disciplines – made errors. [Romney] welcome new systems and processes that will identify and guard against circumstances where human error may have severe consequences."

No one seems to understand this or point it out. They would rather talk about Romney's positions in his church as a former CEO of a STRATIGIC BUSINESS CONSULTING FIRM, THAT CHARGED OTHER BUSINESSES MONEY TO TELL THEM WHAT TO DO. ROMNEY WAS A CEO FOR A COMPANY THAT FIXED OTHER COMPANIES. HE IS Winston 'The Wolf' Wolfe FROM PULP FICTION.

The Wolf: You're... Jimmie, right? This is your house?
Jimmie: Sure is.
The Wolf: I'm Winston Wolfe. I solve problems.

and

The Wolf: Jimmie, lead the way. Boys, get to work.
Vincent: A please would be nice.
The Wolf: Come again?
Vincent: I said a please would be nice.
The Wolf: Get it straight buster - I'm not here to say please, I'm here to tell you what to do and if self-preservation is an instinct you possess you'd better f----- do it and do it quick! I'm here to help - if my help's not appreciated then lotsa luck, gentlemen.
Jules: No, Mr. Wolf, it ain't like that...
Vincent: I don't mean any disrespect, I just don't like people barking orders at me.
The Wolf: If I'm curt with you it's because time is a factor. I think fast, I talk fast and I need you guys to act fast if you wanna get out of this. So, pretty please... with sugar on top. Clean the car!

Well, Romney is a little nicer.

It seems that the psychologist who worked with my brother viewed my parents as an enemy, but not a partner. Oh! But they are adults! We can't violate their privacy, or their rights!

If my crazy brother wants to live on the streets, we have to let him! If Cho, or others who have been ruled, "mentally ill" wants to get degrees in our schools, we have to let them!

My parents could have helped my brother a lot more, if it wasn't for patient-client privilege.

I was a life guard (click for picture) on a lake for 3 summers. You had to pass a swimmer's test in order to go into the swimmers area (click link for picture). Those who do not have the ability to survive in the swimmer's area, and those who cannot function in today's society, should not be treated as though they can. It would be wrong of me to let non-swimmers into the deep portion of the lake. Cho was a non swimmer. It was wrong to pretend that he was OK. It was wrong to tell him, that I'm OK, your OK, we are all OK. It was wrong to say that he should be treated the same as everyone else, just as it is wrong for me to let non swimmer go to the middle of the lake.

This from Romneym about 1 year ago:

"As the Haleigh Poutre case demonstrates, errors in human judgment occur. What is unusual is how many people involved in Haleigh's care – medical professionals, case workers and administrators from many disciplines – made errors. I welcome new systems and processes that will identify and guard against circumstances where human error may have severe consequences."
Governr Mitt Romney,
03-21-2006 Press Release

"A tragic crisis shone a spotlight last year on the operations and culture of the Department of Correction. This group of experts worked long and hard to identify areas of weakness in our state prison network. Their conclusion is clear: It is time to correct our system of correction."
Governor Mitt Romney,
06-30-2004 Press Release
Accepting the commission's report at the Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center

2003
04-18-2003; Governor Mitt Romney names dr. Childs mental health commissioner
02-14-2003;
ROMNEY ANNOUNCES COMMISSION TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS; Tasked with coordinating state services to homeless
02-24-2003; ROMNEY ANNOUNCES HHS REORGANIZATION AS PART OF BUDGET; Plan closes more than 30 under-utilized local offices, achieves $90 million in savings
03-10-2003; HHS CONSOLIDATIONS TO SAVE MILLIONS AND IMPROVE SERVICE; Closing 36 underutilized offices will save the state $2.3 million in FY04
08-01-2003; ROMNEY ANNOUNCES $8.9 MILLION TO CREATE 825 MORE HOMES

2004
09-15-2004;
ROMNEY CREATES ADVISORY COUNCIL ON CORRECTIONS REFORM
06-30-2004; HARSHBARGER COMMISSION RECOMMENDS BLUEPRINT FOR REFORM

2005
02-14-2005; LT. GOV. HEALEY FILES BILL TO MANDATE POST-RELEASE SUPERVISION; Move will cut down on recidivism among former inmates

2006
04-13-2006; HEALEY ANNOUNCES MASSACHUSETTS' FIRST RECOVERY HIGH SCHOOL
03-21-2006; Poutre Panel Recommends Reforms in Child Welfare System

~ Mike

Governor Mitt Romney and "mental health"

Governor Mitt Romney and "mental health"

  • "As the Haleigh Poutre case demonstrates, errors in human judgment occur. What is unusual is how many people involved in Haleigh's care – medical professionals, case workers and administrators from many disciplines – made errors. I welcome new systems and processes that will identify and guard against circumstances where human error may have severe consequences."
    • Governr Mitt Romney, 03-21-2006
  • "A tragic crisis shone a spotlight last year on the operations and culture of the Department of Correction. This group of experts worked long and hard to identify areas of weakness in our state prison network. Their conclusion is clear: It is time to correct our system of correction."
    • Governor Mitt Romney, 06-30-2004 Press Release
      • Accepting the commission's report at the Souza-Baranowski Correctional Center

Is it true that the mentally ill will no longer receive MassHealth coverage for psychiatric services? No. While psychiatric day treatment coverage has been eliminated, MassHealth clients will continue to receive coverage for medically necessary outpatient mental health services. These services include individual, group and family therapy, medication evaluation and management, psychiatric emergency services and inpatient psychiatric services. In addition, the Department of Mental Health is reviewing the list of people who had received psychiatric day treatment services to determine how many are DMH clients and whether they are eligible for DMH-funded day rehabilitation and support programs.

  • "Dr. Childs's background in psychiatry is critical to provide sensitive and appropriate services to many of the most vulnerable citizens in the Commonwealth. My Administration and the people we serve are fortunate to have her leading the way."

Romney's actions with regard to Mental Health

  • Appointed Dr. Childs mental health commissioner. The magna cum laude graduate of Mount Holyoke College graduated from the University of Cincinnati Medical School in 1986. She performed postdoctoral work at the Massachusetts Mental Health Center in both child and adult psychiatry. Prior to heading up the Carney psychiatry department, Dr. Childs worked as a child psychiatrist for the M.I.T. Health Plan and has also been affiliated with the Dana Farber Cancer Institute, Children's Hospital, Gaebler Children's Center in Waltham, Winthrop Hospital, Newton-Wellesley Hospital, New England Deaconess Hospital and the Good Samaritan Hospital in Cincinnati, Ohio. Dr. Childs has also served as a lecturer at Harvard University Medical School and for the past 11 years has supervised Boston University Medical School students. Dr. Childs has served as the president of the Massachusetts Psychiatric Society since last year and is currently the director and chief of psychiatry at Caritas Carney Hospital in Dorchester.
  • Closed 6 offices from the Department of Mental Health. See the 03-10-2003 Press Release: HHS CONSOLIDATIONS TO SAVE MILLIONS AND IMPROVE SERVICE; Closing 36 underutilized offices will save the state $2.3 million in FY04
    • Closing Springfield Office located at 503 State Street. Staff move to DTA Office, 310 State Street, Springfield
    • Closing Medfield Office. Staff move to MA Hospital School, Canton
    • Closing Lawrence. Staff move to DTA Office, 755 Main Street, Haverhill
    • Closing Haverhill Office located at 52-54 Washington Street. Staff move to DTA Office, 755 Main Street Haverhill
  • Closing Hyannis Office. Staff move to DTA Offices, 77 High School Road Extension, Barnstable and 155 Katherine Lee Bates Road, Falmouth
    • Closing Worcester Office, 322 Main Street. Staff move to Bryan Building on the grounds of Worcester State Hospital
  • "Romney said the rest of the $8.9 million in grants will be invested in 13 other projects across the state, including in Boston, Brookline, Cambridge, Provincetown, Quincy, Taunton, Worcester and Yarmouth. He said a second Northampton project being developed by TCB – Northampton Independent Living – will receive $105,000 in trust funds. The project will provide six independent living apartments for Department of Mental Health clients." 10-01-2003 Press Release
  • "The additional $3 million will be directed into specialized housing for the mentally ill, where it will leverage three times that amount in federal funds. Once discharged from mental health inpatient units, these clients need help in finding apartments and paying rent while continuing to receive services from the Department of Mental Health." 01-14-2004 Press Release
  • For example, if a mother visits the Department of Transitional Assistance to apply for food stamps, her lead caseworker may determine that she also needs childcare and services provided by the Department of Mental Health. From that moment on, the DTA caseworker will coordinate the delivery of all the family's services, serving as the single point of contact. The mother will not need to travel to multiple offices and deal with layers upon layers of bureaucracy to get the help she needs. The saved time will allow families to focus on their lives and caseworkers to better help their clients. 02-24-2003 Press Release

2003

  • 04-18-2003; Governor Mitt Romney names dr. Childs mental health commissioner
  • 02-14-2003; ROMNEY ANNOUNCES COMMISSION TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS; Tasked with coordinating state services to homeless
  • 02-24-2003; ROMNEY ANNOUNCES HHS REORGANIZATION AS PART OF BUDGET; Plan closes more than 30 under-utilized local offices, achieves $90 million in savings
  • 03-10-2003; HHS CONSOLIDATIONS TO SAVE MILLIONS AND IMPROVE SERVICE; Closing 36 underutilized offices will save the state $2.3 million in FY04
  • 08-01-2003; ROMNEY ANNOUNCES $8.9 MILLION TO CREATE 825 MORE HOMES

2004

  • 09-15-2004; September 15, 2004; ROMNEY CREATES ADVISORY COUNCIL ON CORRECTIONS REFORM
  • 06-30-2004; HARSHBARGER COMMISSION RECOMMENDS BLUEPRINT FOR REFORM

2005

  • 02-14-2005; LT. GOV. HEALEY FILES BILL TO MANDATE POST-RELEASE SUPERVISION; Move will cut down on recidivism among former inmates

2006

  • 04-13-2006; HEALEY ANNOUNCES MASSACHUSETTS' FIRST RECOVERY HIGH SCHOOL
  • 03-21-2006; Poutre Panel Recommends Reforms in Child Welfare System