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Score:
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# of reasons to disagree: -0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: +2

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Animals experience human emotions

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Animals experience disappointment

Chuck norris is the toughest man on earth

People are naturally good

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People risk their own safety to help complete strangers.
 
Some kids do not take naturally to violent traditions.



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  1. Communist. Karl Marx assumed that once communist got to power, they would look out for the needs of the poor. Unfortunately in the Soviet Union, the communist lived like kings, and poor people had enough to live on, but they had no freedom, or motivation to work. 
  1. The founding fathers. The founding fathers knew, from looking at history, that people tend to seek power. As this happens, they expand the power that an office holds (for instance king). These keeps happening until people are slaves of the king. That is why they created separation of powers, so that each branch of government could "check" or limit the power of the other branch of Government. The founding fathers also did not like government to have too much democracy, because they felt that common people were too swayed by emotion, or crowds. That is why members of the senate were originally appointed by each state's representatives. 
  2. The guy who wrote Lord of the Flies.
  3. Police: they see too much stuff.
  4. Judges.
  5. Lawyers
  6. They guy who said, power corrupts and ultimate power corrupts ultimately. 
  7. Prison Guards
  8. Victims of crime. 

You should be careful around fire

You should keep bat houses around your house.


  1. Bats eat hundreds or thousands of mosquitoes every day
  1. Bat poop is disease ridden.
  2. If you put out bat houses to attract bats to your neighborhood, they will get into your or your neighbor's attick. You don't want bats getting into your attick having babies messing up your insulation, and making bigger holes into the attick. 
Bats eat thousands of mosquitoes

Mountains are cool


  1. Mountains allow you easy access to the potential energy of gravity, which allows you to mountain bike, ski, or river kayak fast. These are good ways to exercise, and they don't require loud motors. 
  2. Mountains let you see things that are a long ways away. 
  3. Mountains allow you to see and think about the true history of the earth, and the incredible power that caused them.. Looking at mountains lets you to see through time. 
  1. Motors allow you to go fast without mountains. The wind gives you access to potential energy, on a large lake or ocean, which also allows you to go fast. 
  2. Tall building let you see a long way.

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Denver is a better place to live than Chicago

Best reasons to agree: +5
  1. Denver has a better climate than Chicago
  2. Denver is closer to cooler stuff than Chicago
    1. Reasons to agree: +2
      1. Denver is close to the Rocky mountains, which is cool for camping. 
      2. Denver is closer to national parks (Yellowstone, and Glacier) than Chicago
      3. It is easier to go water skiing, mountain biking, rock climbing in Denver than Chicago. If you like skiing, Denver is one of the best places in the USA to live.
    2. Reasons to disagree:
      1. Big deal. Denver has the mountains. Chicago has the great lakes. You can go trout fishing in Denver, but you can go deep-lake fishing, or big lake sailing in Chicago. The lake is just as pretty as the mountains. 
      2. Chicago has better museums, cultural exhibits, and attractions than Denver +3
  3. Denver has better air quality and water quality than cities like Chicago.
  4. There is a lot of good low cost parking down town Denver.
  5. Denver has good Public Transportation
Best reasons to disagree: -4
  1. The rent is "too damn high". Home prices have sky rocketed. I hope we are not in another bubble. 
  2. It is very confusing to get used to driving in down town Denver. 
    1. Some of the City lines up with the river, some of it lines up with North South 
  3. By preventing growth, government officials artificially keep housing prices too high. This might feel like it is good for current home owners, but it makes people spend too much money on housing. Also, when high density development is prevented from being built relatively close to the city, it forces people to drive longer commutes. This results in more smog, CO2, and poor life stiles for those who commute. 
  4. It is very strange that the light rail system only goes south and one line goes west... Why such segregation and preferential treatment? Why wouldn't the city treat down town as the center, and try to grow equally in all directions? 
  5. There are too many drug addicts, and alcoholics peeing in the streets and bothering people in Denver.
    1. My mother in law was yelled at by a homeless person the very first time she visited Denver. She was scared. 
    2. The girls that work in my office don't like to come down town at night because of them. They have all had homeless people follow, and yell at them. They all have horror stories from friends who have had worse things happen to them. 
    3. Young girls feel safe in down town Chicago, in the loop, walking around at 2am in the morning. There is no place in Denver that feels as safe as the shopping areas of Chicago at any time of the day, let alone at 2am in the morning. Denver could improve the way they deal with their homeless. 
    4. Many women and children don't feel safe downtown Denver when their almost a hundred dirty mentally ill people just standing around all the time near the homeless shelter that is located right in the center of a city that you want people to feel safe in. You see these dirty smelly people everywhere. I saw a sign yesterday that said: Cash, Grass, or Ass. I did not know homeless people were allowed to ask for sex or drugs, but there are kids around, and it makes me sick. 
  6. People in Denver think their city is better than any other city, and that, by extension, they are better than people who live in other places. They make self righteous videos about their mountains. They don't have enough self awareness or geographical information to realize that other places also have mountains. They make reverential movies about their sports teams, which is pretty pathetic, unless of course you are from here... which in that case, these are the best sports teams ever... 
Score:
# of reasons to agree: +5
# of reasons to disagree: -6
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +3
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -1
Total Idea Score: +2

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Interest of those who agree: +
  1. Groupism, local pride, regionalism
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Songs that agree: +
  1. Rocky Mountain High by John Denver
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For us, Denver is closer to family, so it is better.

People from Denver love Denver.
I don't think anyone should feel like they are better than other people, because they live in a better place. Some times you meet people from a place they think is great, and they act like they are better than you because they are from that place. Every place has some good and bad, and just because you live in a good place does not make you better than other people.

They often have these bumper stickers that have the Denver Mountains Skyline, with words that say "Native". You don't know why people put these stickers on their cars, but you assume most of them think they are somehow better because they were born here. They don't like the new people moving into their town.

As someone who has just moved here, this rubs me a bit wrong. I like Denver. It has a good job which brought me here. It is closer to my family in Boise than Salt Lake. It also seems like it has some other cool stuff. I guess you can cheer for the home team, but don't go to far. I propose that there is nothing in Denver that you can't find equally as good in other cities, and that the combination of things in Denver, is not that much better than other cities. US News, CNN Money, and other places rank cities by crime, economy, cultural events, housing, and transportation. Talking to people in Denver you would think that Denver is at the top of every single of these lists. Denver is not on the Top 10 of US News.  Forbes Ranks Denver Metro #5, which is pretty good, for doing business. But they rank Provo Utah as number #1, so can we take that list seriously?

Denver might have a hard time comparing to Oregon, San Francisco, Boston, New York, or Houston, depending on what you wanted. There are parts of Denver that are better than all of these cities, but all of these cities has aspects that are better than Denver. It just depends on what you are looking for. But people from Denver should not feel self righteous, because there are lots of other great places to live.

      Independence Plaza in Denver is a great place to work

      Best reasons to agree: +

      1. It close to 16th street mall
      2. It offers good views of the city
        1. Reasons to disagree
          1. The view to the south west is blocked by the Westin
      Best reasons to disagree: -
      Score:
      # of reasons to agree: +1
      # of reasons to disagree: -0
      # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
      # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
      Total Idea Score: +0

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       A view to the South West from the 16th floor.


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          Chicago has better public art than Denver (-2.5)

          Best reasons to agree: +5

          1. Chicago has the cloud gate which a giant mirror type reflective culture that is sort of in the shape of a bean, but underneath it does weird mirror reflections... It lets you take cool pictures of yourself with the Chicago Sky line.
          2. Chicago has a frank gehry pavilion  right in the middle of down town.
          3. Chicago has a giant Picasso.
          4. Chicago has a river that goes through it.
          5. Chicago has more cool buildings, and more interesting architecture. 
          1. Denver has a blue bear that looks in a window for some reason.
          2. Denver has murals, but to be fair they are mostly commercial in nature, promoting the building they are painted in.

          Score:
          # of reasons to agree: +0
          # of reasons to disagree: -1
          # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
          # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -3/2 = -1.5
          Total Idea Score: -2.5

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          1. This link shows all the public art in the Chicago loop. There are also links for public art in the Chicago southwest, near south side, south east side, and north side
          2. The Chicago Public Art Program's website. 


          Images that agree:

          This picture is typical of the murals that you see in down town Denver. It is OK, but doesn't really compare to the art you see in Chicago. Its fine that Denver couldn't afford a large Picasso sculture, but if you want to see famous, or renowned public art, you should go to Chicago, not Denver. 
          They have similar cows in every big city that get painted for that city for some reaosn
          Kind of a Mexican Gang flavored public art. 

          There is a lot of dumb graffiti in Denver. 

          Best reasons to agree: +



          Background Context and Assumptions
          Government shouldn't spend money on Public Art. 
          Best reasons to agree: +5

          1. This is just taking money from the poor and middle class to support the interest of the Rich. 
          2. If people want art in their lives they can buy it themselves. When government subsidizes art they have to make choices. The people making these choices are experts who are trying to make decisions for the public. They invariably look down on the public, because in general the public is not interested in spending much money on original art. 

              Denver has good Public Transportation

              Best reasons to agree: +

              1. Denver has a good bike system, with bike lanes, and bikes you can borrow. 
              2. There is a lot of good low cost parking down town Denver, which is cool.
              3. Denver has a good bus system
                1. The buses that let more than one person out at a time are cool.
                2. The hybrid electric buses are cool.  
              Best reasons to disagree: -
              1. The outdoor mall on 16th street seems like sort of a bad idea... 
                1. It is a pain in the neck to try and cross... 
                2. The buses are stupid too... 
                  1. People can walk up and down every other mall in America, but we need buses to drive us to the next store in Denver?  
                3. Homeless people make the 16th street outdoor mall feel less safe.
                  1. Outdoor malls in the suburbs, that are too far to walk to, are more resistant to the homeless. You have only two choices Denver: 1) Make a space welcoming to the homeless or 2) Make a space welcoming to Women and Children. You can't have it both ways. If you want to be welcoming to the homeless, you shouldn't do it in the middle of your city.
              2. Denver could be more accommodating of pedestrians and bicyclist. 
              Score:
              # of reasons to agree: +1
              # of reasons to disagree: -2
              # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
              # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -3/2=-1.5
              Total Idea Score: +-2.5

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              Best webpages that agree: +
              1. http://www.rtd-denver.com/    Good info, but biased
              2. https://www.facebook.com/RideRTD  Good info, less controlled
                                                                                                    
              Interest of those who agree: +
              1. Promoting Denver, if they like it.
              2. Patting themselves on the back, if they work for RTD
              Interest of those who disagree: -
              1. Criticizing Denver, if they don't like it.
                                                                                                    
                                                                                                    

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                  There is a lot of good low cost parking down town Denver, which is cool



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                   $5/day, $10 evenings
                  It is very hard to find $4 parking in Chicago (except for the $1/hr at Northerly Island)

                  Best reasons to agree: +
                  1. It shouldn't cost you tons to just get to a city. Until public transportation is much better, cities that don't want to exclude young or middle class individuals, should try to make parking affordable. 
                  Best reasons to disagree: -

                  Score:
                  # of reasons to agree: +1
                  # of reasons to disagree: -0
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
                  Total Idea Score: +1

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                  Interest of those who agree: +
                  1. Saving money, getting around, and figuring out a town, without having a very specific plan, and needing the flexibility of a car.
                  Interest of those who disagree: -

                  1. Not paying for parking.
                  2. Not having to deal with a lot of other cars down town.
                                                                                                        

                  Podcast that disagree: -
                  1.   Parking is Hell

                  Denver's weather is *better than Chicago's +3

                  Background, Context, and Assumptions

                  *Better will be different to different people. You can see my assumptions below. Obviously, employment opportunities, cultural events, and other opportunities are better in Chicago. But if your just a kids and don't care about anything in the summer time, but having nice weather to ride your bike around in, consider the discussion points below.

                  Best reasons to agree: +5
                  1. The comfort index (with higher numbers being better) is 68 in Boise, 57 in Denver, but only 47 in Chicago. 
                    1. I attribute that to how windy it is in the winter, and how the humidity will really get you in the summer, which everyone knows, but also gets you (I assert) in the winter. Places that get lots of rain are nice to look at in the summer, with all the green plants, but they aren't as comfortable outside if your kids just want to be outside doing stuff... 
                  2. Chicago has 189 sunny days, Boise Idaho has 206, only 17 more than Chicago. 
                    1. While Denver has 246. The average in the USA is 205, but 17 days a year is 1/2 a month each year of sunny weather... 
                  3. Boise only has 11.7" of rain, but Chicago has 35.9" of rain, or 3.1 tunes the amount of rain of Boise. 
                    1. Of course if you are a farmer you might like the rain. However, if you have a back yard and are a kid, usually rain is not so great. Especially if your parents don't have a concrete floor that can be hosed off periodically. Denver gets 12.6".
                  4. Chicago gets 27.5". Boise gets about 70% as much with 19.5". Denver gets 54".
                    1.   will say less is better. Especially because Boise is in the foothills and is much closer to world class skiing, snow mobiling, and anything that might make snow good. Boise does get enough to let you go sledding once a year, and gets many feet of snow in the mountains. 
                  5. The Average high in July in Chicago is 83 and 90 in Boise. 86 in Denver. But it is a dry heat, and because of the high elevation it gets much cooler at night time, which makes sleeping comfortable. Megan hates (I think) summers in Chicago. Average January low is 22 in Boise and 18 in Chicago. So I guess Boise is 7 degrees hotter in summer and 4 degrees hotter in winter. Denver actually has a higher temperature in the Winter than Chicago, which surprises my friends from Chicago. 
                  6. The springs are so rainy and short that you can't really enjoy them... It seems that you go strait from bitter cold to unbearable heat... The spring time is very painful, because you are dying to get outside after a long winter, but it is soo freakin rainy... No I'm not just talking about a little Seattle drizzle... it is a freakin torrential downpour. Rivers over-run their bounds, peoples basements get flooded... that just doesn't happen in Boise... Maybe it is because Lucky Peak dam stops the river from flooding. Maybe people in Boise are just smarter, and don't build their homes in flood planes, but every spring you hear about homes around the Chicago area getting flooded, so that the 1st level is almost completely under water. Maybe I just didn't pay attention when I was a kid, but I don't think that hardly ever happens in Idaho. Flash floods can kill campers who are near creeks... at least in the scouts that was a fear, but the girl who cleans my teeth's parents and aunt had their house totally covered with water with the stop sign out in-front of their street totally submerged... 

                  Best reasons to disagree: -
                  1. Sure, if you live somewhere that gets lots of rain, you might get flooding. However, if you live in the West, your whole state might burn down each summer. So pick your poison: too much or not enough rain.
                  2. Denver get more snow than Chicago, which can be bad for traffic, but is good for skiing and sledding and stuff. 
                  3. Because Chicago gets more rain, you see less places that are just left to go to weeds in Chicago. Everything is green, and generally people mow their grass in Chicago. In Denver, people don't water that grass, it dies, goes to weeds, and sometimes looks crappier than Chicago. 
                  Score:
                  # of reasons to agree: +6
                  # of reasons to disagree: -3
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
                  Total Idea Score: +3

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                  Our back yard turns to a pond every summer.


                  Bolingbrook is a bit like Venice Italy


                  Its kind of hard to see, but through the aches you can see the bleacher that are mostly covered.

                  Best Videos that agree: +1


                  Dan Price is a good artistic role model +1


                  1. Cameras can re-create images perfectly. Photo-realism can be achieved with very little money. 
                  2. Its cool how Dan writes stuff with images. 
                  1. Dan Price draws things he sees. Everyone's life is important. It is important to value your life, and to really look at the stuff around you. Sketching it force you to really see it, but sometimes art should do more... you can say important, powerful things visually... You can create something that makes people think, and act differently. Dan does this, but maybe it is more important to focus on doing a few really awesome paintings, or creations, instead of a exploring a whole bunch of new places... Its not like their is a right or a wrong... Every artist should do what their attention to detail, and boredom push them to do, but you shouldn't do all your art like Dan's. 

                  # of reasons to agree: 2
                  # of reasons to disagree: -1
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
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                  The Chicago Botanic Garden is a good place to take your kids +2

                  Best reasons to agree: +4
                  1.  You can take pictures of your kids in a pretty places. For the cost of going to a professional studio, your kids can walk around and you can take pictures of them.
                  2. You can people watch at the gardens, which you can't do in the wilderness. 
                  3. You can get gardening ideas, and find plants you want in your yard at the botanic garden.
                  4. They have paths, which is good if you have kids in strollers. 
                  1. You can walk around and look at nature for free.
                  2. You don't have to be around people if you just go out into nature. 
                  Score:
                  # of reasons to agree: +4
                  # of reasons to disagree: -2
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
                  Total Idea Score: +2


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                  Going to the zoo is worth your families time and money +0

                  Reasons to Agree: +3
                  1. It is worth it to have animals be part of your life
                  2. You should take your kids outside where they can walk around, see different people, and explore their surroundings. Kids get to see all different types of people at the zoo.
                  3. You should teach your kids about Animals. Kids learn about Animals by going to the zoo. You can't learn to appreciate animals unless you see them. When kids learn about animals, they learn about biology which may result in medical interest. Medical interest can result in an interest in many different jobs, from pharmacy to being a doctor. Learning about animals also teaches about geography. At least it did for our kid, as he learned what animals lived where. 
                  Reasons to disagree: -2
                  1. Usually people don't spend much time studying animals at the zoo. People tend to look at the animal, watch it for a few minutes, and move on... 
                  2. Kids will learn more about animals by having a pet than going to a zoo. Letting your kids have a pet teaches your kids. Having a long time responsibility for an animal can teach you a lot. 
                  3. Kids are taught that animal rights can be ignored when going to the zoo.

                  Score:
                  # of reasons to agree: +3
                  # of reasons to disagree: -3
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
                  Total Idea Score: +0

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                  Videos that agree:

                  This movie supports the conclusion because it shows that:
                  1. Kids can have authentic experiences with animals at zoos.
                  Dolphin show


                  Daughter dancing

                  Wolves
                  Youngest watching the giraffe. 
                  My oldest son doesn't know how to wear a hat...


                  4 year olds often don't like to be teased

                  It is interesting watching kids learn to speak. +2

                  Best Videos that agree: +
                  1. Kids come into this world knowing nothing. Without knowing any rules, just hearing other people speak, they are able to learn perhaps one of the most complex things they will ever do, in only a few years...
                  2. Watching kids learn to speak, can remind you of your kids when they were doing that. 
                  3. Just because you understand how mankind was able to learn how to speak, doesn't mean that it is less amazing, interesting, or that you should appreciate the miracle of life, and knowledge, and the ability to communicate less. 
                  4. in A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's court Mark Twain spoke of the "darling mispronunciations of childhood".
                  Best reasons to disagree: -
                  1. Animals don't have really complex words, but they are able to make noises, and have the begining of languages... Give them a few million years, and this could develop in non-spectacular ways, if you watched the slow progress.  
                  Score:
                  # of reasons to agree: +3
                  # of reasons to disagree: -1
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
                  # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
                  Total Idea Score: +2

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                  Best webpages that agree: +

                      It is hard work but can be humorous teaching kids manners and hygiene

                      Best Videos that agree: +2
                      1. Kids eat things they should not eat. 
                        1. Kids lick bird poop off sliding glass windows. 
                        2. When you find brown stuff in their bed, and say it looks like poop, they just might tell you, "Don't worry, it doesn't taste like poop." When you ask why they tested it, they might say, "don't worry I didn't eat it, I just put my teeth on it". PS: it was, against all assurances, poop. We told her she needs to wash her hands, because she might get sick, she tells us, "I'm already sick" (she had a runny nose).
                        3. Kids eat dirt.
                        4. Kids eat rolly pollies (not ours, yet)
                      2. Kids eat things that shouldn't be eaten, but won't eat anything you try to feed them. 
                      3. It is funny seeing a little brain that has not yet learned that it is impolite to suck your toes in public...
                      Score:
                      # of reasons to agree: +3
                      # of reasons to disagree: -0
                      # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +4
                      # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
                      Total Idea Score: +3+4/2=5

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                      Interest of those who agree: +
                      1. Sanity
                      2. Cleanliness
                      3. Sanitation
                      4. Control
                      Interest of those who disagree: -
                      1. Variety
                      2. Legacy

                        It is difficult to go out to eat with kids

                        Best Videos that agree: +
                        1. Kids love to explore new places they go to.
                        2. Kids don't enjoy talking, and so they entertain them selves by messing around with stuff.
                        3. Kids can't hold still very well.
                        Best reasons to disagree: -3
                        1. When they are really young they mostly just sleep
                        2. If you bring stuff for kids to play with, they are OK. 
                        3. Most restaurants accommodate kids. 
                        Score:
                        # of reasons to agree: +3
                        # of reasons to disagree: -3
                        # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
                        # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
                        Total Idea Score: +0