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Obama was wrong to have voted against the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act

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Reasons to agree: A baby that is born is no longer a fetus, it is a baby. It is wrong to kill babies. It is especially wrong to kill babies when the baby no longer requires his or her mother to provide life. Once a baby is born, it no longer requires it's mother and could be given up for adoption. We can agree to disagree on abortions during the first few months, but partial-birth abortion is the way that lawyers, like Obama, allow a mother to kill a baby, before the feet come all the way out. By leaving the baby partially inside the mother, lawyers will say that it is not a baby. This is disgusting, and is an example of why people should specifically hate Obama, and lawyers in general. Obama said that he would have supported the act, if it provided for exceptions to the mother's life. This is a lie. John K. Wilson, an Obama Supporter said; "Although these bills included an exception to save the life of the mother, they didn’t include anything about abortions necessary to...

Obama is right to try to bring more educated english speaking people to America

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  Background: Obama said in an interview with IANS he would support "comprehensive immigration reform ", including the H-1B visa program "to attract some of the world most talented people to America". "We know that we cannot and should not put up walls around our economy." [ 147 ] Reasons to agree: America is like a baseball team. If we are going to beat other countries, we have to recruit the best players. We need to make America attractive to smart people. Smart people should be attracted by our freedom, rule of law, free press, and fair system. Immigration has been an important part of our nation's success. The current system, however, puts up a concrete wall to the best and brightest, yet those without skill or education are able to walk across the border. We must reform the current immigration laws so we can secure our borders, implement a mandatory biometrically enabled, tamper proof documentation and employment verification system, and incre...

Obama is right to call for Turkey's acknowledgement of the Armenian Genocide

Reasons  to agree: You should call a spade a spade.

Obama is right to give the director of National Intelligence a fixed term independent of Presidential control

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  Reasons  to agree: This would be  one means of depoliticizing the intelligence process Interest  of those who agree (that Obama is wrong): Promoting the Republican Party by attacking a democrat. Racism (critisizing a minority because he is a minority) Interest  of those who disagree (that Obama is right): Promoting the Democratic Party by defending a democrat. Liberal guilt (defending a minority because he is a minority)

Interest

Please help me brainstorm the most probable interest of those who agree or disagree with President Obama on each issue. Just leave what you think motivates each side in the comment section, and I will add it to the list. Also, tell me the percentage of those who agree with Obama you think are motivated by each motivation. I will try to put the most likely motivation towards the top of the list. The book Getting to Yes , tells us that we need to focus on interest instead of positions. To understand why someone believes something we must understand their interest. What are their values? Different interest or values lead to different positions. Of course it is best when the author of an idea submits their interest. However others users of the website could submit and then vote on the most likely motivations of each side. We need to also classify interest as opposing interest or mutual interest. Businesses interest might include low taxes and good infrastructure. Typical Format Thesis #1...

Obama is right to expand the United States Armed Forces

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  During the speech Obama called for an expansion of the  United States Armed Forces  "by adding 65,000 soldiers to the  Army  and 27,000  Marines ", an idea previously introduced by  Secretary of Defense   Robert Gates . Reasons  to agree: We should have enough perminant troops that if we ever wanted to do another Iran, we could win it easily. Interest  of those who agree (that Obama is right): Promoting the Democratic Party by defending a democrat. Liberal guilt (defending a minority because he is a minority) Security Money / Jobs. Se curing jobs for family or friends who are employed by US Military or defense spending. Interest  of those who disagree (that Obama is right): Promoting the Republican Party by attacking a democrat. Racism (critisizing a minority because he is a minority) Not using money on things that kill people. Anti-Americansim. Those who are overseas might not want America to be able to defend itself.

Obama is right to say, we "will cut funding for programs that are wasting your money"

Obama is right to say that we "will fire government managers who aren't getting results"

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  Reasons  to agree: The Chinese work 14 hour days. Their smartest engineers work for $600 dollars a year, and live in housing owned by the company they work for. They eat, sleep, and dream their jobs. They are lean, mean, and efficient. We will not be able to sell our products on the open market, unless our businesses become more efficient. We will not be able to compete, unless businesses have the ability to fire those who are not effective. The same goes with government. If our government takes more money, and does less with it than other governments, then this will be a worse place to live than other countries. If our government is not efficient at what it does, it will put our country at a competitive disadvantage, and the smartest people will want to go to another country to live. We used to be able to afford inefficient wasteful government. We will no longer be the best country, if we don't do things more efficiently. We can keep our since of entitlement, but we will not be ...

Obama is right on affirmative action based on class

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  Obama has indicated support for affirmative action based on class, not just race, (q.v.  redistributive change ) in comments where he said that his daughters should be treated by prospective colleges and employers as people that grew up with a privileged background. Obama shifts affirmative action rhetoric , By David Kuhn - The Politico "Obama has called for government to 'craft' a policy 'in such a way where some of our children who are advantaged aren't getting more favorable treatment than a poor white kid who has struggled more.' Reasons  to agree: We don't want an aristocracy. Schools should be impressed when students come a long ways without any advantages. Of course you are going to take someone's background into consideration when you are trying to get an overall understanding of their potential. Reasons  to disagree: If we are going to compete with the Chinese, and overcome the problems that we face, it is not enough to put kids into schools ...

Obama is wrong on racial affirmative action

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Obama writes in his most recent book,  The Audacity of Hope : " Affirmative action  programs, when properly structured, can open up opportunities otherwise closed to qualified minorities without diminishing opportunities for white students." Reasons  to agree: It not that big of a deal, and Obama may be correct, that it is fair to give advantages to groups that were held back. However what he says is not logically sound. You can't give advantages to one group, without taking those advantages from another group. I'm not saying that I think affirmative action is wrong, I'm just saying that you shouldn't lie to us about it. If you think that minorities have been held back, and that they need help, just tell us that, but don't lie to the majority and tell them that their "opportunies" will not be "diminishe[ed]". Interest  of those who agree (that Obama is wrong): Promoting the Republican Party by attacking a democrat. Racism (critisizing a...

Obama was wrong to support giving driver's licenses to illegal immigrants

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Interest  of those who agree (that Obama is wrong): Promoting the Republican Party by attacking a democrat. Racism (critisizing a minority because he is a minority) Interest  of those who disagree (that Obama is wrong): Promoting the Democratic Party by defending a democrat. Liberal guilt (defending a minority because he is a minority)

Obama was wrong to vote YES on funding for social services for noncitizens

Reasons  to agree: It is feels "nice" to let illegal aliens to receive social services, but you have to be smart, and fair also. Why don't we give social services to South Americans, Europeans, or Chinese? Because they are not US citizens. Just because someone breaks into our country illegally, and hangs out here long enough to make friends, doesn't mean that  we should give them social security. It might be nice (and democrats want SOOOO much for everyone to think that they are nice) but it is stupid to give non citizens benefits of citizenship, unless you are willing to say there is no such things as borders, no such thing as laws, no such thing as rules, and the government is just going to give everything to anybody who wants anything. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Immigration.htm

Obama was wrong to vote YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security

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Reasons  to agree: It is nice to let illegal aliens participate in social security, but you have to be smart, and fair also. Why don't we give social security to South Americans, Europeans, or Chinese? Because they are not US citizens. Just because someone breaks into our country illegally, and hangs out here long enough to make friends, doesn't mean that  we should give them social security. It might be nice (and democrats want SOOOO much for everyone to think that they are nice) but it is stupid to give non citizens benefits of citizenship, unless you are willing to say there is no such things as borders, no such thing as laws, no such thing as rules, and the government is just going to give everything to anybody who wants anything. http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Immigration.htm

Obama was wrong to vote NO on declaring English as the official language of the US government

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Reasons  to agree: When the Germans, Dutch, Italian, immigrants came to America, they all learned English, so that they could fully participate in a new country. E pluribus unum , Latin for "Out of Many, One" Background http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Barack_Obama_Immigration.htm

Obama was wrong to flip-flop on public financing of his campaign.

Reasons  to agree: On January 24, 2007, in reference to his stated plan to take public financing should he procure the nomination, he said, "I think that for a time, the presidential public financing system works." On November 27, he said, "I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election," and on February 28, 2008, he wrote that he planned to "aggressively pursue" a publicly financed campaign, later promising to sit down with John McCain to ensure "a public system" of campaign financing is preserved. [ 75 ]  However, on June 19, 2008, he opted out of public campaign financing. John McCain kept his promise. Obama did not.

Obama is right to support PAYGO.

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  "We can restore a law that was in place during the Clinton presidency--called Paygo--that prohibits money from leaving the treasury without some way of compensating for the lost revenue". Source:  The Audacity of Hope, by Barack Obama, p.187-189  Oct 1, 2006 Reasons  to agree: Everyone else has to pay for things they want. So should the government.

Pros and Cons of Universal Health Care

Background:  "The time has come for  universal health care  in America [...] I am absolutely determined that by the end of the first term of the next president, we should have universal health care in this country." Barak Obama, Jan 24rth 2007. Thesis: Obama was Wrong to support universal healthcare Reasons  to agree: Fiscal Concerns Primary Argument : Unsustainable cost burden on taxpayers and government. Supporting Evidence : U.S. federal deficit trends. Projected cost increases without systemic reform. Tax hike estimates. Qualitative Assessment : Concerns are well-supported by financial data and budgetary projections. Raises legitimate questions about the feasibility of funding mechanisms. 2. Quality of Care Primary Argument : Centralized systems could reduce care quality and stifle innovation. Supporting Evidence : Longer wait times in universal systems (e.g., Canada, UK). Comparative R&D spending between private and public systems. Qualitative Assessment : E...

Obama is wrong to appose oil extraction from ANWR

Reasons  to agree: We should treat the earth as a Garden not an un-touchable wildlife preserve. All the oil in Alaska will someday burn. We can either burn it in our cars, or it will burn when the Sun engulfs the inner planets of our solar system, as it becomes a red-giant, before it burns out. Nothing we do to be nice to the planet matters in the long run. The sun will consume the Earth and everything on it. Sure. We should recycle, buy Prius cars, build green buildings, smart grids, and stop pollution. We need to save the Brazilian rain forest, and stop pollution. But there is absolutely nothing worth saving in ANWR, and nothing bad that could happen from extracting it's oil. It is a big frozen tundra, with miserable caribou that would lean against the pipeline for warmth in the depth of winter.

Obama is wrong to oppose the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste repository in Nevada

Reasons  to agree: We have to put spent nuclear material somewhere, and the scientist said Yucca Mountain is the best place. This decision shouldn't be made by politicians, like Obama, but by scientist.

Obama is wrong to support the $0.54-per-gallon tariff on imported ethanol

Reasons  to agree: We won't be able to get countries to buy from us, if we tariff their products. If we don't tariff middle east oil, we sure as hell should not be tariffing brazilian ethanol.

Obama is wrong to cosponsor the bill that would overturn the National Labor Relations Board's "Kentucky River" 532 U.S. 706 (2001) decision.

Reasons to agree: The bill redefined many employees lacking the authority to hire, fire, or discipline, as "supervisors" who are not protected by federal labor laws. If you don't have the authority to hire, fire, or discipline, that means you are not a "supervisor".

Obama is wrong to circumvent the secret ballot requirement to organize a union

Reasons to agree Union leaders (often the mob), or coworkers would intimidate you into doing what they want. Unions already have too much power. The secret ballot is American. Taking away the secret ballot is un-American.

Obama was wrong on the surge

Reasons  to agree The surge worked. Obama is using a surge in Afganistan, though he is too proud to admit it. You know he said he was all about change, but this is one of those stupid lame things that shows he is just like all the other politicians. Interest  of those who agree (that Obama is wrong): Promoting the Republican Party by attacking a democrat, Obama. Racism (criticizing a minority, Obama, because he is a minority). Defending Bush, because people became deranged, and tried blaming him for everything. Interest  of those who disagree (that Obama is wrong): Promoting the Democratic Party by defending a democrat, Obama. Liberal guilt (defending a minority, Obama, because he is a minority). Attacking Bush because he is a republican. Attacking Bush because he is Rich. Attacking Bush because he was privilaged. Attaching Bush because is a Jock.