Nov 10, 2011

We should allow "Italy to fail" if not letting them fail means giving them bail outs



Reasons to agree:



  1. The concept of Italy failing is ridiculous. This isn't a game with winners and looserItaly may be less successful, or more successful but it probably be more successful than 1/2 of this planet's countries. They are more successful than most countries in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. If we are supposed to rescue Italy, we should probably rescue the rest of the world first. 

  2. Italy isn't helping us in Afghanistan, why should we help them? 


    1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force


  3. Greece isn't helping us much in Afghanistan. Why should we help them?


    1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Security_Assistance_Force


  4. They have the capacity to deal with that themselves. 

  5. We shouldn't try to do impossible things. It is impossible for the United States Government to make another large economy successful. 


    1. Italy is a very large economy. 

    2. We should bail out California before we bail out Italy. And there is no reason for farmers in North Dakota to pay for healthcare benefits of people living in San Fransico, let alone a country that looks down on us from the otherside of the planet. 


  6. Europe is able to take care of their own problems. 


    1. Those who would be hurt most if Italy fails, should give the most.

    2. Europe is able to help Europe.

    3. We would help if we could, but we got our own problems.


      1. If we stay on the course we're on, with the level of borrowing this administration is carrying out, if we don't get serious about cutting and capping our spending and balancing our budget, you're going to find America in the same position Italy is in four or five years from now, and that is unacceptable. We got to fix our deficit here.


    4. We with WWI, and WWII. They will have to do this alone. 

    5. Some Europeans resented our help in the past. 

    6. We should avoid foreign entanglements. 


  7. Those who say we shouldn't let them fail, are implying that we should bail out their banks or government. 

  8. Efficient capitalism requires fair competition. When people are competing with money, those who fail should not be given more money. If those who don't deserve to be given money, keep getting more money, then those those who should be trusted with money will have less. If no one can fail: bad behavior is rewarded until more people fail. 










  1.  It feels good to give people things! Maybe they will like us! :) :)

  2. It's not like we don't have money?!

  3. Government is the perfect way to feel good about giving people stuff! You get all the self righteousness of saying we should be nice, and don't ever have to realize that you have to pay for it in taxes. And if your one of the lucky 55% of people in this country, you might never have to pay taxes! So why not give money to Italy! You won't have to pay for it! As long as you make slightly less than average, you won't have to pay a penny!





















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