Nov 9, 2012

You should try to convince your kids to not use drugs

Best reasons to agree: +5
  1. Drugs addiction will often kill you.
  2. Drugs addiction often causes people to live on the street. 
  3. Drugs will often cause you to steel from and lie to your family.
  4. Drugs will addict you. Addiction takes control of your life. It is bad to loose control of your life.
  5. In general most parents should tell their kids not to use drugs. Obviously there is a right and a wrong way to do it. You should wait until they are the right age, but not too long. If you are struggling with your kids, and they have no respect for you, perhaps you should find someone that they respect more. 
Best reasons to disagree: -5
  1. All kids will rebel to some degree against their parents. This is a natural process of finding yourself, and creating your own separate identity. By telling your kids not to use drugs this creates a situation when they will have a physiological or emotional reason to do the opposite.  
  2. Telling kids not to use drugs only peaks their interest. 
  3. Most kids are smart enough to figure out not to use drugs themselves.
  4. The schools will teach your kids what they need to know about drugs. They have training about these subjects. 
  5. You shouldn't just "try and convince them". You should do random drug tests if you have any suspicions. You need to ensure they have good friends. You need to do specific things to ensure they are not using drugs, especially the important long term things of developing long term relationships with them... 
  6. Kids use drugs for specific reasons: to fit in, and because they have psychological problems. If you keep them from having psychological problems or needing to be accepted by stupid people, they will naturally avoid drugs. 
Score:
# of reasons to agree: +4
# of reasons to disagree: -5
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: -1

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Best books that agree: +
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Best podcast that agree: +
  1. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00w949w
                                                                                          
    Best songs that agree: +
    1. Might as well be walking on the sun by Smash Mouth

    2. The Needle and the Damage Done by Neil Young

    3. Keep on Rocking in the Free World by Neil Young
    4. Hurt By Johny Cash
                                                                                          
    Best webpages that agree: +
    1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_dependence
    2. http://www.asam.org/
    3. http://www.dpri.com/
    4. http://www.theantidrug.com/
                                                                                          
    Interest of those who agree: +
    1. Saving their kids from trauma. 
    Interest of those who disagree: -
    1. Being counter-intuitive. 
                                                                                          
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    Poems that agree: +

                                                                                          

    Poetry can be the best way to motivate yourself

    Reasons to agree: +1
    1. People have spent time to put important life lessons into poetry, that are well said enough that they tell a story or hold a truth that is more powerful than just stating the belief as a summary, or cliffs notes version of the poetic statement. For instance to me the Palace by Rudyard Kipling tells me that when people look back on the wreck of your life, that they won't just see your permanent long lasting improvements that you made, but that they will also see what you tried to do, and that that can be good enough, perhaps. That idea is much better explained in his story / alagory / poem, printed below for your ease of use.
    2. Come Let Us Anew by Wesley should be motivating to most people
      1. Reasons to agree: +2
        1. Its nice to think that you can start again. 
        2. It may be depressing to think about how fast life is passing, but it is true, and so you need to deal with truths.
      2. Reasons to disagree: -3
        1. Its depressing to think about how fast live moves.
        2. You don't really get to start again. A year is a continuation of the previous year, and you don't start with a new situation. People often sing this at the new year, but they continue to live their old lives.
        3. Unfortunately some people have so much emotional need to validate their rejection of religion that they might not be able to apply anything from a poem that has a faithful perspective. 
    1. A well rounded person won't look for motivation just from poetry, but will try to have good health, excercize, friends, and family, and also try to have an inner life, and think deaply about things from time to time. Part of thinking about things can include seeking out and learning good poetry. But is is sort of wrong to say that poetry is the "best" way to motivate yourself. Sometimes anti-depressents, or exercize are the best way to motivate yourself. 
    Palace by Rudyard Kipling

    When I was a King and a Mason-a master proven and skilled-
    I cleared me ground for a Palace such as a King should build.
    I decreed and cut down to my levels, and presently, under the silt,
    I came on the wreck of a Palace such as a King had built.
    There was no worth in the fashion-there was no wit in the plan-
    Hither and thither, aimless, the ruined footings ran-
    Masonry, brute, mishandled; but carven on every stone: 
    "After me cometh a Builder. Tell him I, too, have known."
    Swift to my use in my trenches, where my well-planned ground-works grew, 
    I tumbled his quoins and ashlars, and cut and reset them anew. 
    Lime I milled of his marbles ; burned it, slacked it and spread; 
    Taking and leaving at pleasure the gifts of the humble dead.
    Yet I despised not nor gloried; yet as we wrenched them apart, 
    I read in the razed foundations the heart of that builder’s heart. 
    As though he had risen and pleaded, so did I understand 
    The form of the dream he had followed in the face of the thing he had planned.

    When I was King and a Mason-in the open noon of my pride,
    They sent me a Word from the Darkness-They whispered and called me aside.
    They said-"The end is forbidden." They said-"Thy use is fulfilled,
    "And thy Palace shall stand as that other’s-the spoil of a King who shall build. "
    I called my men from my trenches, my quarries, my wharves and my sheers. 
    All I had wrought I abandoned to the faith of the faithless years. 
    Only I cut on the timber-only I carved on the stone: 
    "After me cometh a Builder. Tell him I, too, have known."


    2. Come, Let Us Anew (Wesley)
    Come, let us anew our journey pursue,
    Roll round with the year,
    And never stand still till the Master appear.
    His adorable will let us gladly fulfill,
    And our talents improve,
    By the patience of hope and the labor of love,
    By the patience of hope and the labor of love.

    Our life as a dream, our time as a stream,
    Glides swiftly away,
    And the fugitive moment refuses to stay.
    The arrow is flown, the moments are gone,
    The Millennial year
    Presses on to our view, and eternity’s here,
    Presses on to our view, and eternity’s here.

    O that each in the day of His coming may say,
    “I have fought my way thro’—
    I have finished the work Thou didst give me to do.”
    O that each from his Lord may receive the glad word:
    “Well and faithfully done;
    Enter into my joy and sit down on my throne,”
    “Enter into my joy and sit down on my throne.”

    My Mom pointed out that she like this hymn. She felt her life had gone so fast, and liked the 2nd verse... the part about your life flying by like an arrow, a dream, or a river.


    You should gather a list of poems that mean things to you, and explain why you liked them

    1. You can review the list when you feel that life has no meaning, beauty, or meaning. 
    2. Its unfortunate that people read books, and poems while in school, but sit on their asses and just watch TV for the rest of their lives. 
    3. If their is no God, perhaps the only way you can leave something lasting when you die is to say something in a way that gets remembered.
    4. Poetry can help you tell your kids how you feel about them.
    5. People can write poems that describe the type of parent you want to be.
    6. Authors of good poetry can force you confront difficult topics  
    7. Poetry can put your shortcomings in perspective
    8. Poetry can motivate you.

    Poetry can put your shortcomings in perspective

    Poems that agree: +


    1. William Shakespeare - Sonnet #129
    The expense of spirit in a waste of shame
    Is lust in action; and till action, lust
    Is perjured, murderous, bloody, full of blame,
    Savage, extreme, rude, cruel, not to trust;
    Enjoy'd no sooner but despised straight;
    Past reason hunted; and no sooner had,
    Past reason hated, as a swallowed bait,
    On purpose laid to make the taker mad:
    Mad in pursuit, and in possession so;
    Had, having, and in quest to have, extreme;
    A bliss in proof, and proved, a very woe;
    Before, a joy proposed; behind, a dream.
    All this the world well knows; yet none knows well
    To shun the heaven that leads men to this hell.

    Shakespear's sonnet #129 is a great poem about addition. It sort of reminds me of the song that Johnny Cash sang called Hurt. I want me kids to be free. I want them, and all of humanity, to be free from all addictions. I don't want them to be slaves to alcohol, drugs, or any other addiction. It doesn't make them more noble or heroic to overcome addiction, like Cash... It is more noble to just avoid it.

    Shame

    Authors of good poetry can force you to confront difficult topics

    Poems that Agree: +

    1. Spring and Fall: [Margaret, Are You Grieving] by Gerard Manley Hopkins
    Margaret, are you grieving
    Over Goldengrove unleaving?
    Leaves, like the things of man, you
    With your fresh thoughts care for, can you?
    Ah! as the heart grows older
    It will come to such sights colder
    By and by, nor spare a sigh
    Though worlds of wanwood leafmeal lie;
    And yet you wíll weep & know why.
    Now no matter, child, the name:
    Sorrow's springs are the same.
    Nor mouth had, no nor mind, expressed
    What héart héard of, ghóst guéssed:
    It is the blight man was born for,
    It is Margaret you mourn for.

    Megan, an English major, told me about this poem.
    You can find better explanations on other sites, but:
    Margaret is a young girl... Can't remember. Perhaps a niece or something... She was sad when she watched the leaves fall from the trees.
    Goldengrove yellow trees.
    Unleaving = leaves falling off.

    People can write poems that describe the type of parent you want to be

    Poems that agree: +

    1. "Genes" - Sharon Dunn
    My eleven year son wants to fish,
    he owns two rods, one saltwater,
    one freshwater. He loves knives,
    Bowie knives, Swiss Army
    knives, "Knives like this one?"
    my brother says, opening his desk
    drawer and taking out a small
    jackknife with antler handle.
    My boy camps outdoors, begs to sleep
    outside, is always shooting
    arrows, rubber band guns,
    he is lashing together a fort
    in the backyard. He sails,
    swims, kayaks and wants
    to know the stars.
    The outdoor hunting genes
    are in the dark men in my family.
    Yet I believe he is a son of light.
    His joy in reading, cooking
    and piano are fanned
    from the tinderbox
    of his father's heart.
    He will save rainforest,
    he will grow vegetables,
    keep horses, fly his own plane.
    He will make his own brave life,
    he will not remake our lives
    nor redeem us, nor pity us.

    Poetry can help you tell your kids how you feel about them

    Poems that agree: +
      1. Daughter Lyrics by Loudon Wainwright III
      Everything she sees
      she says she wants.
      Everything she wants
      I see she gets.
      That's my daughter in the water
      everything she owns I bought her
      Everything she owns.
      That's my daughter in the water,
      everything she knows I taught her.
      Everything she knows.
      Everything I say
      she takes to heart.
      Everything she takes
      she takes apart.
      That's my daughter in the water
      every time she fell I caught her.
      Every time she fell.
      That's my daughter in the water,
      I lost every time I fought her.
      I lost every time.
      Every time she blinks
      she strikes somebody blind.
      Everything she thinks
      blows her tiny mind.
      That's my daughter in the water,
      who'd have ever thought her?
      Who'd have ever thought?
      That's my daughter in the water,
      I lost everytime I fought her
      Yea, I lost every time.

    Teenagers can be OK to live with +1

    Poems that agree: +

    An Easy-Going Weekend by Gerald Locklin
    With my wife and daughter away at
    My daughter's college for four days,
    It has been a bachelor's weekend
    For my fifteen-year old son and me.
    We get along easily because we
    Like a number of the
    Same few basic things: eating,
    Reading, writing, music. his social
    Life is different from my current
    One: he visits with his friends,
    Girls and boys, while I swim at
    The YMCA pool. Then he watched
    Videos—a compromise between
    The ones that he picks out—
    Empire Records, Strange Brew—
    And the ones I think he ought to
    Be exposed to—Citizen Kane,
    La Strada, Dr. Strangelove. He
    Plays his amplified guitar; I switch
    A game on when the Yankees are
    At bat. I give him In Our Time
    To read; finish up a Flann
    O'Brien for my class. We both
    Like Italian one day, Mexican the
    Next. He feeds the cats and does
    The dishes for his mother.
    At night, he works late on
    A story at the MAC; I write
    A poem with a pad and pencil.
    I exercise the dog and feed it.
    I go to bed before he does.
    We both say, "love you; see
    You in the morning." And
    We mean it

    Poems that disagree: -


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    1.  Teenagers are moody 
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    # of reasons to disagree: -0
    # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
    # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
    Total Idea Score: +1

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