Newsweek: "Growing Up Giuliani"

This article helped convince me that Romney, not McCain was the best presidential candidate.

 

Now I have tons of great reasons not to vote for Giuliani...

 

This latest article from Newsweek is a must read for anyone who is following the presidential election. It is in the Dec, 03 2007 Issue and is by Evan Thomas and Suzanne Smalley of NEWSWEEK.

 

Here are some of my favorite parts, but you need to read the whole thing.

 

 http://www.newsweek.com/id/72121/page/1

On Sept. 16, 1992, the police in New York City held a rally that spun out of control. The cops wanted a new collective-bargaining agreement, and they were angry at Mayor David Dinkins for proposing a civilian review board and for refusing to issue patrolmen 9mm guns. More than a few of them tipsy or drunk, the cops jumped on cars near city hall and blocked traffic near the Brooklyn Bridge. According to some witnesses, they waved placards crudely mocking Mayor Dinkins, the first black mayor of New York, on racial grounds, while at the same time chanting "Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!" to welcome Rudy Giuliani, the crime-busting former U.S. attorney who had arrived in their midst to shore up his political base.

It is not clear Giuliani knew exactly what he was getting himself into—he later denied that he did—but video shows him wildly gesticulating and shouting a profanity-laced diatribe against Dinkins...

Can you see Romney "wildly gesticulating" and "shouting a profanity-laced diatribe against Dinkins". We republicans are the stupid party, and I am going to laugh when we nominate this idiot, and Hillary kills him with a video of that "wildly gesticulating" and "profanity-laced diatribe" against Dinkins. Howard Dean's uncooth scream did him, in. I just can't wait till the republican party nominates this moron, and Hillary lets loose, and good bye Republican party...

 

Can you see Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, or Ronald Reagan, "wildly gesticulating" and "shouting a profanity-laced diatribe against" someone they just beat? 

 

What does this story tell you about a guy? Sure drunken mobs love this stuff, but is the republican party a drunken mob?

...The next day the New York newspapers were sharply critical of Giuliani (a Daily News editorial called his behavior "shameful"), and Dinkins, years later, accused him of trying to stir up "white cops to riot." At the time, Giuliani refused to back down or apologize for his remarks, saying only: "I had four uncles who were cops. So maybe I was more emotional than I usually am."

But this is not the only time Rudy acted like a mad-man... Going to page 5

Michael Lubin on Rudy: "As far as I'm concerned, we were watching a madman"

 

Loyalty has always been the greatest virtue to Giuliani, sometimes trumping all others. By loyalty, Giuliani's critics contend, he means "loyalty to Rudy." Disloyal subordinates learned this the hard way, even if they thought they were serving some higher master, like truth and justice. By the early '80s, Giuliani had risen to claim a top job in the Reagan administration Justice Department. At the time, the department was investigating McDonnell Douglas, the aircraft manufacturer, for making foreign bribes. Without telling career prosecutors who had been working on the case for months, Giuliani met with McDonnell Douglas defense lawyers. The career prosecutors were upset that a top official had gone over their heads, and wrote a letter to Giuliani expressing "shock" and "dismay," and warning that his secret meeting with the defense could undermine the prosecution's case. The letter leaked. Giuliani summoned the prosecutors, Michael Lubin and George Mendelson, to his office—and exploded.

 

"As far as I'm concerned, we were watching a madman," Lubin told Jim Stewart for his book "The Prosecutors." "I've never heard or seen anything like it, even in the movies . He ranted and raved for a full twenty minutes." Giuliani, who later dropped criminal indictments against four McDonnell Douglas executives as part of a plea agreement in which the company paid $1.2 million in fines, dismissed Lubin and Mendelson as "jerks." With petty vindictiveness, he withdrew a special Justice Department commendation awarded the two prosecutors.

When we have this guy as our Republican nominee, and Hillary kills him, don't say that we didn't warn you. You think Hillary isn't going to contact these people? You don't think Opera won't have them on her show? You think their won't be some Hollywood producer put together a YouTube video of them telling their story in dramatic fashion? The republican party is so stupid sometimes, and watching Rudy's high approval ratings, is like watching a slow moving accident... luckily people are starting to get to know him better, and they are coming down, but come on people!

 

According to TIME (a very respected magazine): "Loyalty to Giuliani means staying out of his limelight"

"Loyalty to Giuliani means staying out of his limelight. Police Commissioner William Bratton discovered that in January 1996, when he made the mistake of posing for the cover of Time magazine in a trench coat to tout New York's astonishing success at fighting crime. Giuliani was not pleased; he ordered city hall's lawyers to start investigating Bratton's expenses, and the commissioner was gone in a couple of months...  In truth, both men deserve credit for New York's turnaround. Bratton was a vocal apostle of the "broken window" theory of crime—that small acts of vandalism can create a lawless climate conducive to bigger crimes."

Rudy's one claim to fame was that he reduced crime, but Rudy got red of the police commissioner who had the most to with getting red of crime in New York. Rudy put his own ego infront of the safety of New York citizens. The next police commissioner was far from as effective...

Giuliani never found an equal to Bratton. The next commissioner, Howard Safir, was regarded as a "Yes Rudy" who tried too hard to please his master. ("I am very loyal to Rudy," Safir tells NEWSWEEK. "However, when I disagreed with him … I made sure I did it in private.") The police stepped up their stop-and-frisk campaign in poor, largely minority neighborhoods. A series of ugly police-brutality cases besmirched Giuliani's crimefighting record and alienated blacks and Hispanics. In 2000, when an undercover narcotics detective killed an unarmed security guard named Patrick Dorismond, who was black, Giuliani scoffed that Dorismond was no "altar boy." Actually, he was an altar boy—and had attended Bishop Loughlin high school.

So in order to KEEP YOUR JOB you had to kiss Rudy's butt... and if you are a guy like William Bratton, who is a vocal apostle of the "broken window" theory of crime, and you take any credit for it's success, Rudy gets red of you... Contrast this to the way that Romny gives Tom Stemberg credit for inspiring him to " get everyone health insurance" even though it was Romney who "assembled a team from business, academia and government and asked them first to find out who was uninsured, and why."

 

I think this is a great example. Rudy gets red of the guy who pushed the "broken window" theory, and takes credit, while Romney gives credit to Tom, and experts from business, academia, and government.

 

Then their is Bernard Kerik. This is what time adds to the story...

"Giuliani's loyalty to his last police commissioner, Bernard Kerik, bordered on the blind. The two men had come to know each other when Kerik, acting as an off-duty cop, drove Giuliani during his first mayoral campaign in 1989 (Giuliani lost to Dinkins). Kerik was the sort of diamond in the rough Giuliani appreciated—a tough street cop who got things done. Giuliani has insisted that he did not know about Kerik's questionable dealings with two businessmen with alleged mob connections. City hall records reviewed by NEWSWEEK suggest that the mayor may have been briefed on some of these problems just before Kerik was appointed commissioner. But Giuliani has said he has no memory, and his tight palace guard remains close-mouthed. ("There were mistakes made with Bernie Kerik," Giuliani said earlier this month, adding that Kerik's wrongdoing should not outweigh his crimefighting successes.)"

I like how, Giuliani, "...said he has no memory". I don't think politicians should be allowed to lie to the public. People talk about the YouTube debate, but what we really need is a lie-detector debate.

Politicians should wear lie detectors.

Reasons to agree:

1. A lot of government and military leaders have been able to convince their people to die, based upon a lie. (reasons to agree & disagree)
2. It is wrong to lie.
3. We should use technology to our fullest advantage. We should have instant re-play at our football games, and if you want to be a politician in our country, you should have to wear a lie detector when ever you speak. We have the technology to stop people from lying to us, why the heck hasn't some one thought of this earlier.
4. Even if it doesn't stop all of the lying, it will serve the same purpose of the radar gun. People drive slowly knowing that they might get caught.
5. It aught to be used in at least one presidential debate.

There are a lot of other times Rudy lies.

 

Rudy Lies

Reasons to agree

1. In March of 2007, The New York Times reported that Kerik was likely to also be indicted for tax fraud and illegal eavesdropping, and also disclosed that Giuliani had testified under oath in April 2006 that he had in fact been briefed on Kerik's mob links in 2000 — prior to his appointment of Kerik as Corrections Commissioner. Giuliani had previously denied knowing of these connections until years later (NYT Article).
2. Mayor Giuliani inherited a $2.3 billion deficit from his predecessor, David Dinkins. He left a $4.8 billion deficit for his successor, Michael Bloomberg. However, he has broadcast campaign advertisements in Iowa and other states, asserting that he "turned a $2.3 billion deficit into a multibillion dollar surplus." Michael Cooper: Giuliani Boasts of Surplus; Reality Is More Complex, New York Times, August 25, 2007
3. In May 2007, Giuliani put responsibility for selecting the location of the Office of Emergency Management in the World Trade Center (long time a target of Ilsamist) on Jerome M. Hauer, New York City's first Director of Emergency Management director who had been appointed by Giuliani himself and had served under Giuliani from 1996 to 2000. Hauer has taken exception to that account in interviews and has provided FoxNews and New York Magazine with a memo demonstrating that he recommended a location in Brooklyn but was overruled by Giuliani. Television journalist Chris Wallace interviewed Giuliani on May 13, 2007, about his 1997 decision to locate the command center at the World Trade Center. Giuliani laughed during Wallace's questions and said that Hauer recommended the World Trade Center site and claimed that Hauer said that the WTC site was the best location. Wallace presented Giuliani a photocopy of Hauer directive letter. The letter urged Giuliani to locate the command center in Brooklyn, instead of lower Manhattan, because "not as visible a target as buildings in lower Manhattan." Transcript: Rudy Giuliani on Fox News Sunday (2007-05-14). Retrieved on 2007-09-29, Onetime Giuliani Insider Is Now a Critic. Retrieved on June 12, 2007, Angry Giuliani Aide Lashes Back. Retrieved on June 12, 2007 , Wayne Barrett and Dan Collins, \"The Real Rudy, September 11, 2006 The February 1996 memo read, "The Brooklyn building is secure and not as visible a target as buildings in Lower Manhattan." Giuliani Blames Aide for Poor Emergency Planning

 

 

"GIULIANI TAKES LIBERTIES ON HIS NYC RECORD"

"Both the Citizens Budget Commission, a pro-business watchdog group, and the Independent Budget Office, a city-funded fiscal watchdog organization, said Giuliani left his successor, Michael Bloomberg, a projected budget deficit equal to or larger than the one Giuliani inherited from David Dinkins, the previous mayor." (Brian C. Mooney, "Giuliani Takes Liberties On His NYC Record," The Boston Globe, 11/16/07)

FACT: Mayor Giuliani Left New York City With A Massive Budget Deficit:

Giuliani Left New York With A $2.8 Billion Dollar Deficit, Pre-9/11. "Giuliani and his campaign often say that he 'turned a $2.3 billion deficit into a multibillion-dollar surplus.' But both the Citizens Budget Commission, a pro-business watchdog group, and the Independent Budget Office, a city-funded fiscal watchdog organization, said Giuliani left his successor, Michael Bloomberg, a projected budget deficit equal to or larger than the one Giuliani inherited from David Dinkins, the previous mayor. 'Even before 9/11, the Giuliani administration was projecting the next mayor would be facing a deficit of $2.8 billion the following fiscal year that would have to be remedied,' said Ronnie Lowenstein, director of the Independent Budget Office. 'Because of 9/11, it climbed to $4.8 billion.'" (Brian C. Mooney, "Giuliani Takes Liberties On His NYC Record," The Boston Globe, 11/16/07)

But the last straw that breaks the camel's back is Rudy's personal life. It must drive Romney crazy that he is in 2nd place to such a smuck...

"While Giuliani was ranting at moral decay, his personal life was a shambles. In Giuliani's last year in office, Donna Hanover learned that her husband was divorcing her when he gave a press conference. Giuliani's third wife, Judith Nathan, has provided fodder for the tabloids by wearing a tiara to a charity ball and seeming to enjoy Giuliani's perks and power a little too much."

Time on Donna Hanover (#2) and Judith Nathan (#3)

It must be infuriating for Romney to be in 2nd place to such a putz:

"While Giuliani was ranting at moral decay, his personal life was a shambles. In Giuliani's last year in office, Donna Hanover learned that her husband was divorcing her when he gave a press conference. Giuliani's third wife, Judith Nathan, has provided fodder for the tabloids by wearing a tiara to a charity ball and seeming to enjoy Giuliani's perks and power a little too much."

 

 

Time on Giuliani and Bernard Kerik

From Time:

"Giuliani's loyalty to his last police commissioner, Bernard Kerik, bordered on the blind. The two men had come to know each other when Kerik, acting as an off-duty cop, drove Giuliani during his first mayoral campaign in 1989 (Giuliani lost to Dinkins). Kerik was the sort of diamond in the rough Giuliani appreciated—a tough street cop who got things done. Giuliani has insisted that he did not know about Kerik's questionable dealings with two businessmen with alleged mob connections. City hall records reviewed by NEWSWEEK suggest that the mayor may have been briefed on some of these problems just before Kerik was appointed commissioner. But Giuliani has said he has no memory, and his tight palace guard remains close-mouthed. ("There were mistakes made with Bernie Kerik," Giuliani said earlier this month, adding that Kerik's wrongdoing should not outweigh his crimefighting successes.)"

Rudy to alter boy: "your no altar boy"

Giuliani never found an equal to Bratton. The next commissioner, Howard Safir, was regarded as a "Yes Rudy" who tried too hard to please his master. ("I am very loyal to Rudy," Safir tells NEWSWEEK. "However, when I disagreed with him … I made sure I did it in private.") The police stepped up their stop-and-frisk campaign in poor, largely minority neighborhoods. A series of ugly police-brutality cases besmirched Giuliani's crimefighting record and alienated blacks and Hispanics. In 2000, when an undercover narcotics detective killed an unarmed security guard named Patrick Dorismond, who was black, Giuliani scoffed that Dorismond was no "altar boy." Actually, he was an altar boy—and had attended Bishop Loughlin high school.

 

From the Time article

Time: "Loyalty to Giuliani means staying out of his limelight"

More from the Time Article:

 

http://www.newsweek.com/id/72121/page/6

"Loyalty to Giuliani means staying out of his limelight. Police Commissioner William Bratton discovered that in January 1996, when he made the mistake of posing for the cover of Time magazine in a trench coat to tout New York's astonishing success at fighting crime. Giuliani was not pleased; he ordered city hall's lawyers to start investigating Bratton's expenses, and the commissioner was gone in a couple of months...  In truth, both men deserve credit for New York's turnaround. Bratton was a vocal apostle of the "broken window" theory of crime—that small acts of vandalism can create a lawless climate conducive to bigger crimes."

But really, do you have to say anything else but:

 

Giuliani endorsed liberal Democrat Mario Cuomo

Michael Lubin on Rudy: "As far as I'm concerned, we were watching a madman"

From Newsweek:

 

http://www.newsweek.com/id/72121/page/5

 

Loyalty has always been the greatest virtue to Giuliani, sometimes trumping all others. By loyalty, Giuliani's critics contend, he means "loyalty to Rudy." Disloyal subordinates learned this the hard way, even if they thought they were serving some higher master, like truth and justice. By the early '80s, Giuliani had risen to claim a top job in the Reagan administrationJustice Department. At the time, the department was investigating McDonnell Douglas, the aircraft manufacturer, for making foreign bribes. Without telling career prosecutors who had been working on the case for months, Giuliani met with McDonnell Douglas defense lawyers. The career prosecutors were upset that a top official had gone over their heads, and wrote a letter to Giuliani expressing "shock" and "dismay," and warning that his secret meeting with the defense could undermine the prosecution's case. The letter leaked. Giuliani summoned the prosecutors, Michael Lubin and George Mendelson, to his office—and exploded.

 

"As far as I'm concerned, we were watching a madman," Lubin told Jim Stewart for his book "The Prosecutors." "I've never heard or seen anything like it, even in the movies. He ranted and raved for a full twenty minutes." Giuliani, who later dropped criminal indictments against four McDonnell Douglas executives as part of a plea agreement in which the company paid $1.2 million in fines, dismissed Lubin and Mendelson as "jerks." With petty vindictiveness, he withdrew a special Justice Department commendation awarded the two prosecutors

Rudy's nasty side...

"The mayor's nasty side becomes more apparent once desperation sets
in, and with all of the slipping poll numbers, it is certainly
apparent that these negative attacks are coming for a reason," Madden
said.

"There is only one candidate in this race who has actually achieved
health-care reform, and that's Gov. Romney. Mayor Giuliani can only
recite talking points provided to him because he has neither a record
or even a basic understanding of how health care markets work or how
reform is achieved."

A RECORD OF REDUCING CRIME IN MASSACHUSETTS

GIULIANI'S INCREASINGLY "FUZZY" STATS

Giuliani Falsely Claims That "Violent Crime" Went Up In Massachusetts:

Yesterday, Giuliani Falsely Claimed That "Violent Crime" Went Up In
Massachusetts. "'Gov. Romney did not have a good record in dealing
with violent crime.' Giuliani pulled a sheet of paper out of his
pocket that listed FBI crime statistics for Massachusetts while Romney
was governor. Murders were up 7.5 percent, robbery was up 12 percent,
he said. 'He had an increase in murder and violent crime while he was
governor,' Giuliani said. 'So it's not so much the isolated situation
which he and the judge will have to explain _ he's kind of thrown her
under the bus, so it's hard to know how this is all going to come out.
But the reality is, he did not have a record of reducing violent
crime.'" (Charles Babington, "Romney Calls On Judge He Appointed To
Resign After Washington State Murders," The Associated Press,
11/24/07)

FACT: According To The FBI Statistics, Overall "Violent Crime"
Decreased In Massachusetts Under Governor Romney:
Under Governor Romney, the violent crime rate in Massachusetts
decreased by over 7%. The violent crime rate was lower than the
national average. Prior to Governor Romney, the violent crime rate
was increasing.

Violent Crime Rate Per 100,000 Residents

Massachusetts National Rate

2002 – 484.42002 – 494.4
2003 – 473.12003 – 475.9
2004 – 458.82004 – 463.2
2005 – 4572005 – 469
2006 – 4472006 – 473.5

Source: FBI Crime in the United States Website, "Crime in the United
States, 1987-2006,"
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_01.html, Accessed 10/12/07

FACT: According To FBI Statistics, The Overall Crime Rate Decreased
In Massachusetts Under Governor Romney:

Under Governor Romney, The Overall Crime Rate Fell By 8% Over His Four
Years In Office. "Car thefts and larcenies also were down, in line
with national trends, and helped contribute to an overall 8 percent
decline in crime during Romney's four years, according to the
FBI stats." (Dave Wedge, "Crime Up During Romney Tenure," The Boston
Herald, 9/26/07)

FACT: According To FBI Statistics, Other Crimes Were Down Under
Governor Romney (2002-2006):
Assaults Down 15%. (FBI Crime in the United States Website,
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr, Accessed 10/12/07)
Rape Down 2%. (FBI Crime in the United States Website,
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr, Accessed 10/12/07)
Larceny/Theft Down 6%. (FBI Crime in the United States Website,
http://www.fbi.gov/ucr, Accessed 10/12/07)
Motor Vehicle Theft Down 32%. (FBI Crime in the United States
Website, http://www.fbi.gov/ucr, Accessed 10/12/07)

FACT: This Isn't The First Time Giuliani Has Used "Fuzzy … Math":

ABC News: Giuliani Uses "Fuzzy Healthcare Math" In Radio Ad. "To
hear Rudy Giuliani describe it in his new radio ad, the British
medical system is a scary place. 'My chance of surviving prostate
cancer – and thank God I was cured of it – in the United States: 82
percent,' Giuliani says in a new radio spot airing in New Hampshire.
'My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: Only 44 percent,
under socialized medicine.' But the data Giuliani cites comes from a
single study published eight years ago by a not-for-profit group, and
is contradicted by official data from the British government.
According to the United Kingdom's Office for National Statistics, for
men diagnosed with prostate cancer between 1999 and 2003, the
'five-year survival rate' – a common measurement in cancer statistics
– was 74.4 percent." (Rick Klein, "Rudy's Fuzzy Healthcare Math," ABC
News, 10/29/07)

The Annenberg Public Policy Center: Giuliani Wrongly Claims He Left A
Budget Surplus. "Giuliani's radio ad also asserts that he 'turned a
2.3 billion deficit into a multibillion-dollar surplus' in New York.
Well, not if you're comparing what he inherited with what he left,
which would be a logical way to look at it. When he took office in
1994, Giuliani was indeed facing a $2.3 billion deficit for the next
fiscal year. But Giuliani's last budget, issued in May 2001 – before
9/11 – for fiscal 2002, projected a deficit of nearly $2.8 billion in
fiscal 2003, the first budget year the new mayor would face. The IBO
estimated the deficit would be even larger, about $3.3 billion."
("Giuliani's Tax Puffery," FactCheck.org Website, www.factcheck.org/,
7/27/07)

The Washington Times: Giuliani Exaggerates Tax Cutting Number. "Mr.
Giuliani repeated his claim that he 'cut taxes 23 times when I was
mayor of New York.' It turns out that many of those cuts were
instigated by Republican Gov. George Pataki and the state legislature.
One of several glaring flaws in Mr. Giuliani's record on taxes was, as
the Club for Growth says, his 1994 'opposition to Republican
[gubernatorial] candidate George Pataki's proposed cut in the state
income tax,' whose rates were among the highest in the country."
(Editorial, "Romney And Giuliani," The Washington Times, 10/14/07)

A Record Of Reducing Crime In Massachusetts

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A RECORD OF REDUCING CRIME IN MASSACHUSETTS GIULIANI'S INCREASINGLY "FUZZY" STATS Giuliani Falsely Claims That "Violent Crime" Went Up In Massachusetts: Yesterday, Giuliani Falsely Claimed That "Violent Crime" Went Up In Massachusetts.  "'Gov. Romney did not have a good record in dealing with violent crime.' Giuliani pulled a sheet of paper out of his pocket that listed FBI crime statistics for Massachusetts while Romney was governor. Murders were up 7.5 percent, robbery was up 12 percent, he said.  'He had an increase in murder and violent crime while he was governor,' Giuliani said. 'So it's not so much the isolated situation which he and the judge will have to explain _ he's kind of thrown her under the bus, so it's hard to know how this is all going to come out. But the reality is, he did not have a record of reducing violent crime.'"  (Charles Babington, "Romney Calls On Judge He Appointed To Resign After Washington State Murders," The Associated Press , 11/24/07) FACT: According To The FBI Statistics, Overall "Violent Crime" Decreased In Massachusetts Under Governor Romney: Under Governor Romney, the violent crime rate in Massachusetts decreased by over 7%.  The violent crime rate was lower than the national average.  Prior to Governor Romney, the violent crime rate was increasing. Violent Crime Rate Per 100,000 Residents Massachusetts National Rate 2002 – 484.4 2002 – 494.4 2003 – 473.1 2003 – 475.9 2004 – 458.8 2004 – 463.2 2005 – 457 2005 – 469 2006 – 447 2006 – 473.5 Source:  FBI Crime in the United States Website, "Crime in the United States, 1987-2006," http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_01.html, Accessed 10/12/07 FACT:  According To FBI Statistics, The Overall Crime Rate Decreased In Massachusetts Under Governor Romney: Under Governor Romney, The Overall Crime Rate Fell By 8% Over His Four Years In Office.  "Car thefts and larcenies also were down, in line with national trends, and helped contribute to an overall 8 percent decline in crime during Romney's four years, according to the FBI stats."  (Dave Wedge, "Crime Up During Romney Tenure," The Boston Herald, 9/26/07) FACT:  According To FBI Statistics, Other Crimes Were Down Under Governor Romney (2002-2006): Assaults Down 15%.  (FBI Crime in the United States Website, http://www.fbi.gov/ucr , Accessed 10/12/07) Rape Down 2%.  (FBI Crime in the United States Website, http://www.fbi.gov/ucr , Accessed 10/12/07) Larceny/Theft Down 6%.   (FBI Crime in the United States Website, http://www.fbi.gov/ucr , Accessed 10/12/07) Motor Vehicle Theft Down 32%.  (FBI Crime in the United States Website, http://www.fbi.gov/ucr, Accessed 10/12/07) FACT:  This Isn't The First Time Giuliani Has Used "Fuzzy …  Math": ABC News:  Giuliani Uses "Fuzzy Healthcare Math" In Radio Ad.  "To hear Rudy Giuliani describe it in his new radio ad, the British medical system is a scary place.  'My chance of surviving prostate cancer – and thank God I was cured of it – in the United States: 82 percent,' Giuliani says in a new radio spot airing in New Hampshire. 'My chances of surviving prostate cancer in England: Only 44 percent, under socialized medicine.'  But the data Giuliani cites comes from a single study published eight years ago by a not-for-profit group, and is contradicted by official data from the British government.  According to the United Kingdom's Office for National Statistics, for men diagnosed with prostate cancer between 1999 and 2003, the 'five-year survival rate' – a common measurement in cancer statistics – was 74.4 percent." (Rick Klein, "Rudy's Fuzzy Healthcare Math," ABC News, 10/29/07) The Annenberg Public Policy Center: Giuliani Wrongly Claims He Left A Budget Surplus.  "Giuliani's radio ad also asserts that he 'turned a 2.3 billion deficit into a multibillion-dollar surplus' in New York. Well, not if you're comparing what he inherited with what he left, which would be a logical way to look at it. When he took office in 1994, Giuliani was indeed facing a $2.3 billion deficit for the next fiscal year. But Giuliani's last budget, issued in May 2001 – before 9/11 – for fiscal 2002, projected a deficit of nearly $2.8 billion in fiscal 2003, the first budget year the new mayor would face. The IBO estimated the deficit would be even larger, about $3.3 billion." ("Giuliani's Tax Puffery," FactCheck.org Website, www.factcheck.org/, 7/27/07) The Washington Times : Giuliani Exaggerates Tax Cutting Number.  "Mr. Giuliani repeated his claim that he 'cut taxes 23 times when I was mayor of New York.' It turns out that many of those cuts were instigated by Republican Gov. George Pataki and the state legislature. One of several glaring flaws in Mr. Giuliani's record on taxes was, as the Club for Growth says, his 1994 'opposition to Republican [gubernatorial] candidate George Pataki's proposed cut in the state income tax,' whose rates were among the highest in the country."  (Editorial, "Romney And Giuliani," The Washington Times, 10/14/07)

Creeping Socialism

In a recent Glen Beck interview Mitt Romney spoke about his Health Care initive, explaining how we are currently on the road to socialized medicine, and how his plan steers us away from a government takeover of health care.



You don't have to look far to see the effects of socialism creeping into our health care system.

Gov. Rod Blagojevich is moving ahead with a broad expansion of state-subsidized health care even though a legislative oversight panel told him "no" last week.

Blagojevich is expanding FamilyCare income eligibility to $82,600 for a family of four to give more people medical coverage. Previously, the income cutoff was $38,202 per year for that same family.

On Tuesday, a legislative rule-making panel voted to block Blagojevich's attempt to enact the health-care expansion. But Abby Ottenhoff, a Blagojevich spokeswoman, insisted the panel is not legally empowered to block the governor's actions.

"[The panel's] role is merely advisory," Ottenhoff wrote in an e-mail response to the Tribune late Friday. "It does not have the constitutional authority to suspend the regulation."

Lawmakers who thought they had blocked the governor last week were caught off guard by Blagojevich's decision to press ahead despite the rejection.

So, if a family making 80K a year will now be covered by government health care, where's the cutoff going to be in a decade? Eventually there won't be a cutoff, because government programs push the expenses of the non-insured to the insured, through higher taxes, higher health care costs, and higher premiums. In turn this makes it harder for people to afford insurance, which makes more people who need to be covered by government programs.

It is worth the effort that caring for animals takes in order to keep them part of our lives -0.5

Killer whales should not be kept in captivity.

Reasons to agree:

Over seas zoos are cooler,
because they let you have
more of an experience with animals

1. Our pets put up with our kids playing with (tormenting) them. See video below for proof.
2. Cats are good on a farm for killing mice.
3. Dogs are good for scaring away possums  raccoon  and field mice.  
4. No one's house needs to be so clean that they don't have animals. 
5. Having animals can help you prepare for your death, and the deaths of those you love. Animals usually have a shorter life span than we do. We don't talk about death enough.
6. It is true that the sun will burn out, and we are the only species that has a chance to escape this earth, but we will be lonely if we can't take any other species with us.
7. Animals experience human emotions. 

Reasons to agree: 

1. Pets are a mess.
1. Pets shed.
2. Pets poop and pee in your house or in your yard.
3. Pets kill grass, when walking on it all winter long
2. Animals are work. If you think the work is worth it, good for you. If you don't, then you will probably have time for other stuff. You shouldn't feel bad if your not an animal person. You aren't missing anything that great.  For instance if you have young kids, you can just know that your life will already be frazzled, dirty, and chaotic. Perhaps you can wait until your kids are a little older for a dog, or your house is better suited for an animal. 
3. Cats make people crazy. They actually give you a disease that makes you crazy. 

Score:

# of reasons to agree: +4

# of reasons to disagree: -3

# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0

# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -3/2 = -1/5

Total Idea Score: 4-2-3/2 = -0.5

Videos that agree: +2

My son chasing our dog on his tricycle 

"Well, bless my soul! Take it out! Take it out! Take it out! Remove it!" James and I noticed this on the way to drop him off at day care.

Kids get all excited about geese at the zoo

Wolves, at the zoo

Kids want to have interactions with the natural world around them, including anmils. 

Dred

I am trying to paint a picture of me being a sophisticated-Idahoan. Me telling stories that involve the use of the barter system may not be a dandy way for me to implement the sophisticated-Idahoan campaign. Oh well.

My Dad taught drivers-ed during the summer. Some guy gave us a baby cow instead of paying us with regular money. So we called the calf "Dred" for Drivers Education.

Dred was a childhood pet of mine. For a cow, he made a very good pet. I remember having a leash and walking him around the pasture. When we installed an electric fence we put some food on it to draw the cow to it.

We did not realize how long it would take for the electric elements to warm up. By the time the fence turned on Dred had wrapped his tough completely around the food and was trying to swallow it.

It did not take long for Dred to realize the basic operations of the electric fence. Dred jumped with such surprise that he nearly knocked over the fence. Needless to say Dred was never the same after that, and never seemed to trust those who witnessed what has come to be known as the "shockening".

Images that agree: +7

Walking around a pasture without shoes! Not too smart. 

I didn't have dogs growing up but we had a couple
of cats

Megan's dog Finley wearing my glasses

James enjoying Finnley's new dog house

Me in my back yard with my cat, about the age that my son is now. She had a great back porch that it lived under. I had a great back yard, and a pasture, and a cool tree near the ditch that I had a tree fort in. I had a telescope and could watch the birds from my tree fort. I think I had the perfect balance of living right on the outskirts of town... Perhaps I'm overly nostalgic about how important it was for me to have unsupervised time outside to just think, and wander along the ditch, and go for walks, away from buildings, and people... I remember going in the winter time, through the snow too... I mean there is nothing that I can point at and say how it has helped me in my life for sure, but I miss it. I miss the time out of time... the time with just the earth, sky, water, plants, and me. I feel guilty living in a neighborhood. for my kids... I wish for them to have the exact childhood I had. It seems weird not being able to go back in time, and bring them up in the same house, and place that I knew... I feel like a stranger in my neighborhood away from my family, and I don't know how to point to the world, and say this is something I understand kids, go enjoy it... I am hear for a job, I got this house, because it had more room than some of the other houses, I don't know any of our neighbors, and I don't really like the cars that drive up the road, and I don't want to let you wander around the neighborhood, but we can do the best we can with this place that is thousand of miles from where I grew up, where your grandparents are from, and hopefully you can make wherever you are feel like home, and hopefully wherever you go you can find people that understand, respect, and make room in their lives for you...

Finley was a very good dog, and a great friend for our son

Portrait of Steve Irwin with his daughter by Hugh Stewart. He experienced animals in their natural habitat, and gave his family a good life. So great that he took his daughter with him into nature, but let her still be a princess.

Websites that agree:

1. http://www.peta.org/
2. http://www.succeedsocially.com/coolanimals

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All Paths to Conservative Health Care

All Paths to Conservative Health Care seem to lead through Mitt Romney. Though none of the other canidates seem willing to give Romney any praise for innovating the consumer-centered approach, the all seem to have adopted it into their plans.

“Credit for starting from a consumer-centered approach goes principally to former Governor Mitt Romney and his administration.”-Edmund F. Haislmaier, Heritage Foundation

Fred Thompson

"Every American should be able to get health insurance coverage that is affordable, fully accessible, and portable. Coverage should meet their individual needs and put them in control."

"I am committed to a healthcare system that:""Increases competition and consumer choice while streamlining regulations through free-market solutions that benefit individuals and reduce costs for employers."

Rudy Giuliani

"The radio ad which begins running in New Hampshire tomorrow emphasizes the need to find free-market solutions that facilitate consumer-driven health care"

Mike Huckabee

"I value the states' role as laboratories for new market-based approaches."

"It is time to recognize that jobs don't need health care, people do, and move from employer-based to consumer-based health care."

John McCain

"I offer a genuinely conservative vision for health care reform, which preserves the most essential value of American lives - freedom."

"When an American family controls its own health care financing, has a wide variety of low-cost, innovative choices, and receives insurance through a sponsor they trust"

Romney and Obama Cross Paths

 

 

Romney and Obama Cross Paths

03 Sep 2007 01:59 pm

MILFORD -- After a devastating flood last April, Milford needed a boost, and the Labor Day parade here, one of the oldest in the country, did the trick. There was Barack Obama and his moving rope line greeting students. Mitt Romney pausing to shake hands with firefighters. Chris Dodd holding his beautiful young daughter.

This is a Republican town; no other Republican had a presence here, except for a pair of signing-waving Guiliani backers and a truckload of veterans for McCain. This day, it seems as if his GOP rivals were yielding New Hampshire to him.

Romney, cheerful, suntanned, dressed in a polo shirt, came prepared with a few sound bites for the reporters. At a brief press conference,he teased Ex-Sen. Fred Thompson, who has decided to announce his presidential candidacy one day after an important debate here.

"I guess the only comment I'd make to Fred Thompson is, 'Why the Hurry?' Why not take a little longer to think this over? From my standpoint, if he wants to take 'till January and February, that's ideal."

Romney noted that the rest of the Republican field "would have had five debates without him."

Of this Wednesday's debate, which Thompson will skip, Romney said: "I think it will boost the ratings for the Jay Leno show, but I'd rather be doing well in New Hampshire."

He also tweaked Sen. Hillary Clinton, whose speech yesterday made the newspapers here for her assertion that she'd bring change to the country.

"I have no doubt in my mind that she would do her best to change America, but she would not take us in the direction that would lead to a strong America," he said. "Hillary Clinton: she'd bring change, it would be a sharp left turn..."

Done with the press, Romney walked about 20 yards to his east. There, Barack Obama was greeting a small crowd of wellwishers, mostly high school and college kids wearing "Department of Peace" tee-shirts. A Secret Service agent guarding Obama's rear tried to stop the phalanx consisting of Romney, several camera crews and Romney aides from slipping right behind Obama, but it was to no avail. Romney stuck his head in the camera shot and gave Obama a big "Hello, Senator!" Obama seemed mildly amused. "Well, let's wait until we debate," he said.

Romney jaunted off.

CNN's Candy Crowley asked Obama what he thinks he should do differently to jar Hillary Clinton out of her seeming lead in the state and nationally. (Note: Obama's campaign would dispute the premise). "People know me in terms of my name, but you get a sense that I sort of popped on the scene two years ago, instead of knowing my track record, working as a civil rights lawyer, as a community organizer and a state legislator," he said. "What we're doing is describing to the American people my background, why I think I can bring something new to the American political scene, why it's so important for us not to just change parties in the this election but to change politics in Washington."

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And then this from Obama's overpaid wife:

 

"The heavy presence of security around Obama was also a silent reminder of the change that took place with the announcement. Michelle Obama, the candidate's wife, acknowledged it in an interview to air on CBS' "60 Minutes," in which she was asked if she fears for her husband's life as a black candidate.

"I don't lose sleep over it because the realities are that . . . as a black man . . . Barack can get shot going to the gas station," Michelle Obama said in the interview, set to air Sunday night. "You can't make decisions based on fear and the possibility of what might happen."

 

ref: http://hotair.com/archives/2007/02/11/video-obamas-wife-plays-race-card-on-60-minutes

 

As if "as a white man" I couldn't?

You stay up for 16 hours.

It may take you two minutes to read this, but if you do not take the
time to read this you are one of the people that we are talking about.

You stay up for 16 hours.
He stays up for days on end.

You take a warm shower to help you wake up.
He goes days or weeks without running water.

You complain of a "headache", and call in sick.
He gets shot at as others are hit, and keeps moving forward.

You put on your anti war/ don't support the troops shirt, and go meet
up with your friends.
He still fights for your right to wear that shirt.

You make sure you're cell phone is in your pocket.
He clutches the cross hanging on his chain next to his dog tags.

You talk trash about your "buddies" that aren't with you.
He knows he may not see some of his buddies again.

You walk down the beach, staring at all the pretty girls.
He patrols the streets, searching for insurgents and terrorists.

You complain about how hot it is.
He wears his heavy gear, not daring to take off his helmet to wipe his brow.

You go out to lunch, and complain because the restaurant got your order wrong.
He doesn't get to eat today.

Your maid makes your bed and washes your clothes.
He wears the same things for weeks, but makes sure his weapons are clean.

You go to the mall and get your hair redone.
He doesn't have time to brush his teeth today.

You're angry because your class ran 5 minutes over.
He's told he will be held over an extra 2 months.

You call your girlfriend and set a date for tonight.
He waits for the mail to see if there is a letter from home.

You hug and kiss your girlfriend, like you do everyday.
He holds his letter close and smells his love's perfume.

You roll your eyes as a baby cries.
He gets a letter with pictures of his new child, and wonders if
they'll ever meet

You criticize your government, and say that war never solves anything.
He sees the innocent tortured and killed by their own people and
remembers why he is fighting.

You hear the jokes about the war, and make fun of men like him.
He hears the gunfire, bombs and screams of the wounded.

You see only what the media wants you to see.
He sees the broken bodies lying around him.

You are asked to go to the store by your parents. You don't.
He does exactly what he is told.

You stay at home and watch TV.
He takes whatever time he is given to call, write home, sleep, and eat.

You crawl into your soft bed, with down pillows, and get comfortable.
He tries to sleep but gets woken by mortars and helicopters all night long.

You sit there and judge him, saying the world is probably a worse
place because of men like him.
If only there were more men like him

If you support your troops, resend this with a "Hooaahhh!"
If you don't support your troops well, then don't resend, it's not
like you know the men and women that are dying to preserve your
rights.

From Paul: Romney unplugged

I know this has been covered already but David Reinhard did a great job... Here it is.

 

Romney unplugged By David Reinhard ( bio)

Tell a Friend Printer Friendly Font [+] Font [–] The canned events, dog 'n' pony shows, sound bites and photo-ops — no wonder voters become desperate for authenticity, real emotion, a true look into a would-be president's heart and soul? We turn to candidate debates hoping for a bit of spontaneity. Some candidates oblige with a seemingly spontaneous line. But most often these bloodless affairs are little more than serial press statements hurled at barely related questions, slogans in search of car bumpers. We're left asking what's this or that candidate really like when the tape's not on — or when he thinks it's not on. How does he or she react in unplanned or uncomfortable situations? We came close to seeing that last week in Iowa with a candidate in need of letting down his perfect hair on an issue he has every right to vent on. Enter Mitt Romney into a cramped studio in Dowling. He was there for a sit-down with talk-radio host Jan Mickelson. Romney has two problems as a candidate. One is that he's almost too perfect. He has a stellar resume, a storybook family, movie-star looks and no hint of scandal. He speaks in crafted paragraphs and conducts himself with cheer and decency. But even if you're an admirer, you still ask: Is this guy for real? His second problem is he's a Mormon. Some think that matters. I don't. His character, ethics and views on public issues should matter; his Mormonism should be no more significant than other candidates' religious views — but Mickelson and others do. Not only did he want to talk about Romney's religion, but also this non-Mormon was soon telling Romney that he didn't understand his own church's strict views on abortion. "You happen to be incorrect on this," Romney said before adding, "I'm not here to discuss a religion or discuss the principles of a religion." That was while they were on the air. The earphones came off at the break, but the talk continued — and Romney was being taped on the radio studio's video cameras. The host began by telling the candidate he was making a big mistake "distancing yourself from your faith." It was too much for Romney. The prominent jaw jutted even farther, and there was a hint of anger in his eyes. "I'm not distancing myself from my faith," he shoots back. "I'm proud of my faith." Romney attempting to tell Mickelson there was a critical difference between running for pastor or pope or rabbi and running for president. Still off the air, Mickelson returned to instructing Romney on Mormon doctrine. What ensued was a real-time, unscripted scrap and peek into the real Romney. (See the whole thing at www.youtube.com.) The GOP candidate was clearly irked. He asked Mickelson to grant that I might "understand my faith better than you do." Mickelson wouldn't do that. "Well, then it's hardly worth having a discussion," Romney shot back, waving him off. After a short return to the air to bid Romney farewell, Mickelson told Romney he'd like him to come back to expand on these issues. Don't bet on that. "I'm not running as a Mormon, and I get a little tired of coming on a show like yours and having it all about Mormon . . .," Romney said. "I'm not running to talk about Mormonism." Exactly. Romney's obliged to clear up any confusion or misinformation about what impact his faith has on his political views. That's a legitimate area of inquiry, and it's politically prudent for Romney to address this. But he's right to take sharp exception to efforts to engage him on the particulars of the Mormon faith. That is, unless we're going to ask Catholic presidential candidates to debate the Immaculate Conception, Jews to discourse on the Levitican code or Protestants to pontificate on the Reformation. What's was most telling about the dust-up, however, was what it revealed about Romney. There was the decency, restraint, verbal skill, steadiness and humility — "I've made other mistakes," he said when telling Mickelson he's been a faithful Mormon on abortion. But there was also a reassuring intensity, scrappiness and measured anger. Romney was not going to play patty-cake to get along at all cost. The real unscripted Romney turned out to be just like the real scripted Romney — only not too perfect. Perfect.

From a Paul

Due to the climate of political correctness now pervading America , Kentuckians, Tennesseans and West Virginians will no longer be referred to as "HILLBILLIES."

You must now refer to them as "APPALACHIAN-AMERICANS."

And furthermore;

HOW TO SPEAK ABOUT WOMEN AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT:

1 She is not a "BABE" or a "CHICK" - She is a "BREASTED AMERICAN."
2. She is not "EASY" - She is "HORIZONTALLY ACCESSIBLE."
3. She is not a "DUMB BLONDE" - She is a "LIGHT-HAIRED DETOUR OFF THE INFORMATION SUPERHIGHWAY."
4. She has not "BEEN AROUND" - She is a "PREVIOUSLY-ENJOYED COMPANION."
5 . She does not "NAG" you - She becomes "VERBALLY REPETITIVE."
6. She is not a "TWO-BIT HOOKER" - She is a "LOW COST PROVIDER."

HOW TO SPEAK ABOUT MEN AND BE POLITICALLY CORRECT:

1. He does not have a "BEER GUT" - He has developed a "LIQUID GRAIN STORAGE FACILITY."
2. He is not a "BAD DANCER" - He is "OVERLY CAUCASIAN."
3. He does not "GET LOST ALL THE TIME" - He "INVESTIGATES ALTERNATIVE DESTINATIONS."
4. He is not "BALDING" - He is in "FOLLICLE REGRESSION."
5. He does not act like a "TOTAL ASS" - He develops a case of "RECTAL-CRANIAL INVERSION."
6. It's not his "CRACK" you see hanging out of his pants - It's "REAR CLEAVAGE.

From T&T

I know here that you will agree with me that standing up for America also means standing up for the God who has so blessed our land. . I believe it longs to see traditional values reflected in public policy again. To those who cite the First Amendment as reason for excluding God from more and more of our institutions and everyday life, may I just say: The First Amendment of the Constitution was not written to protect the people of this country from religious values; it was written to protect religious values from government tyranny."

-President Ronald Reagan

"If  we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone  under." - Ronald Reagan  

Cartoons By Michael Ramirez

Fred Update

August 30, 2007 Read More: F. Thompson Sources: Thompson to announce Sept. 6th Fred Thompson's campaign-in-waiting will hold a 4 p.m. conference call today with supporters to brief them on plans for the former Tennessee senator's presidential announcement next week, according to an e-mail obtained by Politico.com. Randy Enwright, Thompson's political director, said in the message that they will "discuss the next steps as we move forward as an organization." A Thompson aide confirms that they'll share the news about the long-awaited formal launch. "By the end of the day, we'll have more clarity," the aide said, declining to reveal which day the announcement would take place. UPDATE: Still no official confirmation from the campaign, but Thompson sources now confirm that he will announce his candidacy next Thursday, Sept. 6. The launch will include a tour of Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Florida. As expected, Thompson will not appear at the GOP debate in New Hampshire on Wednesday, Sept. 5.   It's the announcement of the announcement about the announcement for the announcement. Fred, are you being forced against your will to run? I mean tell us now. You act as if there is a gun to your head. Posted By: Craig | August 30, 2007 at 11:18 AM      REPORT ABUSE So Fred is holding a press conference to state the date of a press conference where he might state his intentions in regard to the presidential race? Yawn. Posted By: George P. | August 30, 2007 at 11:22 AM      If Fred Thompson's presidency is going to be masked in as much ambiguous uncertainty as his bid(?) for the white house, count me out. This guy makes George Bush look like a sure-footed transparent leader. Posted By: Frank | August 30, 2007 at 11:48 AM      Mr. Thompson, pleeease. An announcement to tell us when you are going to announce that you are a formal candidate. Just do it when you want. Despite your lack of executive/managerial experience, you were the person I hoped would get in the race long before the idea of a Thompson candidacy was mentioned in any of the media. I must say, however, you are beginning to make me a little nervous. If you are getting in a row all of your ducks, fine. Do make sure a solid campaign system is in place. But if there is any reluctance whatsoever on your part concerning entering the race, then please do America and the Republican party a favor and don't do it. Posted By: dtomaselli@bmpllp.com | August 30, 2007 at 11:53 AM      Fred thanks for coming to the party. Unfortunately the party is over..........Today Rasmussen Reports on daily president tracking poll shows Fred at 18% and Mitt at 16%. The 18% is the lowest poll rating for Fred to date. Turn out the lights the party is over. Posted By: perception50 | August 30, 2007 at 11:58 AM      Fred is just a little lazy. Everyone just relax. He's already played a president on T.V. so he's all set. Posted By: eatme | August 30, 2007 at 12:13 PM      Tim, I get your point and will vote for Fred in a heartbeat if he's nominated. But it's partly a matter of perception. The delays and staff turnovers don't look good. That negative image will hold over into the general election. Posted By: VDS | August 30, 2007 at 12:25 PM   running his own kids won't vote for, and the other a Morman?? Fred's got my vote when he comes into the race! VP Ted Nuggent?? Posted By: bruce | August 30, 2007 at 12:29 PM      How dare some people on here compare Fred to Reagan seriously how dare you! A senator who was known for not really doing anything. An tall actor on a mediocre show. A foot dragging undeclared candidate. Please his advisers are keeping him out because they know how weak he is. Rudy, McCain, and Romney will run circles around this guy in a debate. Posted By: JMTS25 | August 30, 2007 at 12:30 PM

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Audio: Laura Ingraham and Mitt Romney

posted at 12:00 pm on August 29, 2007 by Bryan
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This is from Tuesday's show. Laura interviews Gov. Romney about the Craig scandal and Washington's corrupt culture, sanctuary cities, campaign prognostication, the rise of China and more. No fireworks, but the Gov comes across like a polished, informed statesman. And he takes a mild shot or two at Rudy Giuliani.

 

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Reagan Says Thompson is No Reagan

President Reagan's son Michael Reagan appeared on Your World with Neil Cavuto recently to talk about the '08 presidential election. He took issue with people comparing former Senator Fred Thompson to his father. He said:

When you went to a Ronald Reagan speech, and you listened to it, if you listened to one of them or all of them, you always felt the speech he just got done giving was the greatest speech he had ever given. And you would follow him to the moon if he'd have led you there after the speech – and I'm not seeing that in Fred Thompson at all. I see no call.

Reagan, who claims not to have a "horse " in this race, says, "I think the lower-tier that nobody gives any credit to, the Huckabees the Hunters – I think they offer something."

Reagan could not seem to find anything he liked about Thompson other than the fact that he was an actor. One statement he made in particular struck me as insightful, " When people hear Fred speak, I'm still not getting that 'wow' factor – 'Wow'! Fred Thompson's going to lead us where?"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at8P3wuxgPc

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