Showing posts with label Prophets. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Prophets. Show all posts

Mormons claim their leaders have exclusive authority to act in God's behalf.

Reasons to agree
  1. This is one of the most fundamental of all LDS teachers.
  2. Gospel principles says: "Many people live in darkness, unsure of God’s will. They believe that the heavens are closed and that people must face the world’s perils alone. How fortunate are the Latter-day Saints! We know that God communicates to the Church through His prophet. With grateful hearts, Saints the world over sing the hymn, “We thank thee, O God, for a prophet to guide us in these latter days” (Hymns, no. 19). "When a prophet speaks for God, it is as if God were speaking (see D&C 1:38) Gospel principles says; We have a prophet living on the earth today. This prophet is the President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He has the right to revelation for the entire Church. He holds “the keys of the kingdom,” meaning that he has the authority to direct the entire Church and kingdom of God on earth, including the administration of priesthood ordinances (see Matthew 16:19). No person except the chosen prophet and President can receive God’s will for the entire membership of the Church. The Lord said, “There is never but one on the earth at a time on whom this power and the keys of this priesthood are conferred” (D&C 132:7). The President of the Church is assisted by his counselors in the First Presidency and the members of the Quorum of the Twelve, who are also prophets, seers, and revelators. We should do those things the prophets tell us to do. President Wilford Woodruff said that a prophet will never be allowed to lead the Church astray: “The Lord will never permit me or any other man who stands as President of this Church to lead you astray. It is not in the program. It is not in the mind of God. If I were to attempt that, the Lord would remove me out of my place” (Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Wilford Woodruff [2004], 199).
# of reasons to agree: +2
# of reasons to disagree: -0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: -0
Total Idea Score: +2

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(+10) LDS leaders claim to have God's authority when they tell people what to do, however they claim they never said they were infallible when they want to change their minds +12


Reasons to agree


  1. (+6) Mormons don't claim their prophets are infallible.

  2. (+2) Mormons claim their leaders have exclusive authority to act in God's behalf.

  3. (+2) The LDS Church has changed doctrines too much for people to worry about following it

  4. Mormon prophets disagree. +2





  1. Some LDS church leaders use logic to promote their views, not just appeals to their authority. 






# of reasons to agree: +4



# of reasons to disagree: -1


# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +10


# of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: -0


Total Idea Score: +12





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The Bible teaches that prophets are not infallible.

Reasons to agree
  1. Writing about the Old Testament prophet Elijah, James said that he was “a man subject to like passions as we are” (James 5:17).
  2. Jeremiah got so mad at God that he claimed the Lord had “deceived” him and he swore he would never speak in the name of the Lord again (see Jeremiah 20:7, 9.)
  3. Even Peter and Paul had disagreements (see Galatians 2:11-14).
# of reasons to agree: +3
# of reasons to disagree: -0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: -0
Total Idea Score: +3

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Mormons don't claim their prophets are infallible

Reasons to agree
  1. Mormons believe in the Bible (+2), and the Bible teaches that prophets are not infallible (+3).
  2. LDS prophets have said they are not perfect.
# of reasons to agree: +2
# of reasons to disagree: -0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +5
# of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: -0
Total Idea Score: +7

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