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Reasons to agree LDS apologetics don't work. Reasons to disagree   If the LDS Church doesn't defend themselves intellectually, then no one will. It is possible for LDS scholars to present the LDS perspective while also being completely faithful to the truth. LDS apologetics do work (see contrading claim above). The term "biased apologetics" is an oxymoron. Apologetics is the discipline of defending a position  through the SYSTEMATIC use of reason. If an apologetic essay is "biased" it is not "systematic", as a systematic approach would address all aspects of an argument and not favor a biased perspective. Score : # of reasons to agree: 0 # of reasons to disagree: -0 # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0 # of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: 0 Total Idea Score: 0 Don't like the score? It is easy to change the score. Just post a reason to agree or disagree with the overall idea, or any of the reasons and the score will cha...

I think we should dare to be boring, and investigate each belief on its own, and from each angle, because we don't want to keep having portions of the same conversations over and over again, from now until the crack of doom.  Lets do it very well, but only do it once.  Belief: The LDS Church should move beyond biased apologetics.  Reasons to agree LDS apologetics don't work.  Reasons to disagree If the LDS Church doesn't defend themselves intellectually, then no one will. It is possible for LDS scholars to present the LDS perspective without being biased to anything to the truth.  LDS apologetics do work.  The term "biased apologetics" is an oxymoron. Apologetics is the discipline of defending a position  through the SYSTEMATIC use of reason. If it is biased it is not systematic, as a systematic approach would address all aspects of an argument and not favor a biased perspective.  Score : # of reasons to agree: 1 # of reasons to di...

Reasons to agree : +7 The Book of Mormon claims that Ancient Americans had Silk,  which there is no evidence to support. I don't even think the silk worm lived in North or South America. (Ether 9:17: " Having all manner of fruit, and of grain, and of silks, and of fine linen, and of gold, and of silver, and of precious things." The Book of Mormon claims that Ancient Americans had Linen,  which there is no evidence to support. (Ether 9:17: " Having all manner of fruit, and of grain, and of silks, and of fine linen, and of gold, and of silver, and of precious things." The Book of Mormon claims that Ancient Americans had  cattle ,  which there is no evidence to support.    (Ether 9:18: " And also all manner of cattle, of oxen, and cows, and of sheep, and of swine, and of goats, and also many other kinds of animals which were useful for the food of man." The Book of Mormon claims that Ancient Americans had  Oxen ,  which there is n...

Fundamentalist Christian Examples might including: God wouldn't purposely plant dinosaur bones, so that we need faith to believe in him Mormon Examples might including: God wouldn't purposely change the DNA of Native Americans just to make us require faith to be a Mormon. God wouldn't change the language of native Americans from Hebrew, to their current languages, just to make us require faith to be a Mormon. Reasons to agree If God purposely mislead us, that would be dishonest, and he would cease to be God.  Reasons to disagree Our laws are not Gods laws. God can kill and lie and stuff, and still be justified.  Images That agree    Images That disagree Scriptures that agree Scriptures that disagree   Interest of those who agree Interest of those who disagree   Common Interest Opposing Interest   Videos That agree   Videos That disagree   Website that agree Websites that disagree Score : # of reasons to agre...

Reasons to Agree: List of Reasons Book of Mormon Introduction Statement: The introduction to the Book of Mormon states: "Wherefore, it is an abridgment of the record of the people of Nephi, and also of the Lamanites—Written to the Lamanites, who are a remnant of the house of Israel." Historical Teachings of the LDS Church: Many past statements from LDS Church leaders, including Joseph Smith and early church authorities, affirmed that Native Americans were direct descendants of the Jews. Scriptural Support in the Book of Mormon: Various passages in the Book of Mormon (e.g., 2 Nephi 3:3 , Alma 10:3 ) describe the Lamanites as being of the house of Israel, reinforcing the claim of Jewish ancestry. Reasons to Disagree: List of Reasons Modern DNA Evidence: Genetic studies have consistently shown that Native American populations trace ancestry back to Central and East Asia rather than the Middle East. See Wikipedia - Genetics and the Book of Mormon . LDS Church Cover-Up and Rev...

RTA The Book of Mormon says that the Jews are the " principal ancestors of the American Indians" ,  +2   but they were not . +1 The Book of Mormon mentions several animals, plants, and technologies for which there is currently no evidence in pre-Columbian history  +7 God would not send his message to humanity through a document that had serious historical problems. God would not send his message to humanity through a document that had no historical support.  Reasons to disagree There are some aspects of the Book of Mormon that support a literal historical interpretation .  +0 Score : # of reasons to agree: 4 # of reasons to disagree: -1 # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 10 # of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: 0 Total Idea Score: 13 Don't like the score? It is easy to change the score. Just post a reason to agree or disagree with the overall idea, or any of the reasons and the score will change Also see: https://en.wikipedia.o...

It is Easter Sunday and the person was assigned to talk about "The Spirit of Christ". He spoke about how the Spirit of Christ can influence those who are not members of our Church. His example was how Robert E Lee took communion with a black man. He may have been nice, but he lead the South in a fight to keep their slaves. Also quoted D&C 88 and read these word: "As also he is in the sun, and the light of the sun, and the power thereof by which it was made. As also he is in the moon, and is the light of the moon, and the power thereof by which it was made". So the moon has its own power that is different than the power of the Sun, and the stars? There were some good parts, but some very boring parts... In Sunday school we talked for about 20 mins about why Christ told us to be like little Children... So many of these concepts have just been beaten to death. Some of it I probably should be reminded of every once and a while, but for 3 hours every Sunday? Its just...

Does the LDS Church supports a black and white view of the world? and What are examples? It teaches a black and white view of sin, I guess, and its truth, but does it result in problems with people? Reasons to agree : +3 Some things that the Church says are good for all Mormons are only really good for some Mormons.  The LDS Church leaders say that either the Church is 100% true or it is 100% false, but then they make all these allowances for previous church leaders to sin, and change their opinions. They expect members to believe it 100% and be 100% righteous, but allow church leaders all this latitude to change their beliefs, and commit major sins.  The LDS Church says it is the "one true church". Gordon B. Hinkley: "Each of us has to face the matter—either the Church is true, or it is a fraud. There is no middle ground. It is the Church and kingdom of God, or it is nothing". Apr conference, 2003. Reasons to disagree : -0 Leave a comment for me to add one ...

Score : # of reasons to agree: 1 # of reasons to disagree: -3 # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: -2 # of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: -13 Total Idea Score: -17 Don't like the score? It is easy to change the score. Just post a reason to agree or disagree with the overall idea, or any of the reasons and the score will change Reasons to agree  (-1) (-1)  The Book of Mormon is True . (-1)  If the Book of Mormon is true, than the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is true . Reasons to disagree  (-5) (-3)  The LDS Church is still doing bad things (-2)  The LDS Church has changed doctrines too much for people to worry about following it (-8)  LDS leaders claim to have God's authority when they tell people what to do, however they claim they never said they were infallible when they want to change their minds (-1)  Joseph Smith lied about the Book of Abraham e Images That agree Images That disagree http://mormongags...