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We should develop an alternative to The Boy Scouts of America 13

  1. The Boy Scouts should improve their requirements to reach their first advancement category (see the list below for this requirements). (Score: 1 + 2 + 7 + 3 = 13)
    1. Reasons to agree: 2
      1. The Boy Scouts should not require people to be "properly dressed" in a Boy Scout Uniform in order to advance to their first rank of "tenderfoot". (Score: 6+3-1-1 = 7)
        1. Reasons to agree: 6 
          1. You have to go through a monopoly to purchase a Boy Scout Uniform. Monopolies are bad. 
          2. The uniforms are a racket
          3. Even if uniforms were important they should be a "nice to have" not a requirement. The policies should be organized in order of most importance. Some policies should be requirements some should be suggestions. The uniform should be on the 2nd list, if at all. 
          4. The belief that what you were is important is stupid. As long as you were something that is clean and shows respect for yourself and your troup, it shouldn't matter. 
          5. There is no reason to wear uniforms (Score: +3-1 = 2)
            1. Reasons to agree: +3
              1. It is unfortunate that outward appearances are what the boy scouts of America are judged by, but the leaders of the organization obviously didn't get their marketing merit badge. Marketing tells you that we make decisions based on outward appearances, and the appearance of being cool. The outward appearances of scouting is dorkiness. There should be personal improvement youth organizations that are not dorky. 
              2. Not everyone understands the military, or views similarities to the military as reasons to do things for a youth organization.
              3. Grown men in the military are not as prone to peer pressure as Jr. High school kids. People have made sacrifices to be in the military. When they have the power to kill, they are not concerned about looking nerdy in their uniforms. 
            2. Reasons to disagree: -1
              1. The military still uses uniforms
          6. There is something sort of dorky about getting merit badges and sowing them on merit badge sashes (Score: -1)
            1. Reasons to disagree: -1
              1. The military still uses uniforms
    2. We need something similar to boy scouts that does not emphasize camping. (Score: +1 -2 +4 = +3)
      1. Reasons to agree: +1
        1. You can enjoy nature without sleeping in it (Score: +4)
          1. Reasons to agree: +4
            1. You can go on hikes and enjoy nature without sleeping in it
            2. Bird watching in the City can be just as rewarding as sleeping in the forest. 
            3. You can enjoy nature canoeing in a river or lake without sleeping in a tent
            4. You can enjoy nature by fishing without sleeping in a tent
      2. Reasons to disagree: -2
        1. Camping is an opportunity for youth to get in touch with what is really needed in order to live. You don't need a bed. You don't even need a house. You can view your own life better from a place of primitive existence. 
        2. There is something cool about cooking and sleeping in the outdoors. 
Background: Below are the first advancement category "tenderfoot rank requirements".

Reasons to agree:
  1. There should be young groups for people who don't like camping. 
  2. The Boy Scouts have a lot of really great parts, but people should be more free to choose the parts they like, without making a multi-year commitment.
    1. The Boy Scouts have a lot of really great parts
      1. Reasons to disagree:
        1. The Boy Scouts of America have a lot of good merit badge

Tenderfoot Rank Requirements

  1. Present yourself to your leader, properly dressed (pointless), before going on an overnight camping trip. Show the camping gear you will use. Show the right way to pack and carry it (There is no single "right way" to pack camping gear. Perhaps camping is an important skill that we should develop in some of our kids, but we need youth groups that don't pretend this is the first therefore most important part of camping).
  2. Spend at least one night on a patrol or troop camp-out. Sleep in a tent you have helped pitch. Pitching a modern tent is something that that takes about 4 minutes, and is not a very important activity. 
  3. On the campout, assist in preparing and cooking one of your patrol’s meals. Tell why it is important for each patrol member to share in meal preparation and cleanup, and explain the importance of eating together (eating together is no more important than doing anything else together). 
  4. Demonstrate
  5. two half hitches

      taut-line hitch
    1. Demonstrate how to whip and fuse the ends of a rope.
    2. Demonstrate that you know how to tie the following knots and tell what their uses are: two half hitches and the taut-line hitch.
    3. Using the EDGE (Explain Demonstrate Guide Enable) method, teach another person how to tie the square knot.
  6. Explain the rules of safe hiking, both on the highway(?) and cross-country, during the day and at night. Explain what to do if you are lost.
  7. Demonstrate how to display, raise, lower, and fold the American flag.
  8. Repeat from memory and explain in your own words the Scout Oath, Law, motto, and slogan.
  9. Know your patrol name, give the patrol yell, and describe your patrol flag.
  10. Explain the importance of the buddy system as it relates to your personal safety on outings and in your neighborhood. Describe what a bully is and how you should respond to one.
  11. a Record your best in the following tests. 10b. Show improvement in the activities listed in requirement 10a after practicing for 30 days.
    1. Current results
    2. Push-ups ________
    3. Pull-ups ________
    4. Sit-ups ________
    5. Standing long jump (______ ft. ______ in.)
    6. 1⁄4-mile walk/run _____________
    7. 30 days later
    8. Push-ups ________
    9. Pull-ups ________
    10. Sit-ups ________
    11. Standing long jump (______ ft. ______ in.)
    12. 1⁄4-mile walk/run _____________ 
  12. Identify local poisonous plants; tell how to treat for exposure to them.
  13. Demonstrate how to care for someone who is choking.
    1. Show first aid for the following:
      1. Simple cuts and scrapes
      2. Blisters on the hand and foot
      3. Minor (thermal/heat) burns or scalds (superficial, or first-degree)
      4. Bites or stings of insects and ticks
      5. Venomous snakebite
      6. Nosebleed
      7. Frostbite and sunburn
  14. Demonstrate Scout spirit by living the Scout Oath (Promise) and Scout Law in your everyday life. Discuss four specific examples of how you have lived the points of the Scout Law in your daily life.
  15. Participate in a Scoutmaster conference.
  16. Complete your board of review.

Second Class Rank Requirements
1a. Demonstrate how a compass works and how to orient a map. Explain what map symbols mean.

1b. Using a compass and a map together, take a five-mile hike (or 10 miles by bike) approved by your adult leader and your parent or guardian.*

2. Discuss the principles of Leave No Trace.

3a Since joining, have participated in five separate troop/patrol activities (other than troop/patrol meetings), two of which included camping overnight.

3b On one of these campouts, select your patrol site and sleep in a tent that you pitched. Explain what factors you should consider when choosing a patrol site and where to pitch a tent.

3c. Demonstrate proper care, sharpening, and use of the knife, saw, and ax, and describe when they should be used.

3d. Use the tools listed in requirement 3c to prepare tinder, kindling,and fuel for a cooking fire.

3e. Discuss when it is appropriate to use a cooking fire and a lightweight stove. Discuss the safety procedures for using both.

3f. In an approved place and at an approved time, demonstrate how to build a fire and set up a lightweight stove. Note: Lighting the fire is not required.

3g. On one campout, plan and cook one hot breakfast or lunch, selecting foods from the food guide pyramid. Explain the importance of good nutrition. Tell how to transport, store, and prepare the foods you selected.

4. Participate in a flag ceremony for your school, religious institution, chartered organization, community, or troop activity. Explain to your leader what respect is due the flag of the United States.

5. Participate in an approved (minimum of one hour)service project.

6. Identify or show evidence of at least 10 kinds of wild animals (birds, mammals, reptiles, fish, mollusks) found in your community.

7a. Show what to do for “hurry” cases of stopped breathing, serious bleeding, and ingested poisoning.

7b. Prepare a personal first-aid kit to take with you on a hike.

7c. Demonstrate first aid for the following:
  • Object in the eye
  • Bite of a suspected rabid animal
  • Puncture wounds from a splinter, nail, and fishhook
  • Serious burns (partial thickness, or second-degree)
  • Heat exhaustion
  • Shock
  • Heatstroke, dehydration, hypothermia, and hyperventilation
8a. Tell what precautions must be taken for a safe swim.

8b. Demonstrate your ability to jump feetfirst into water over your head in depth, level off and swim 25 feet on the surface, stop, turn sharply, resume swimming, then return to your starting place.

8c. Demonstrate water rescue methods by reaching with your arm or leg, by reaching with a suitable object, and by throwing lines and objects. Explain why swimming rescues should not be attempted when a reaching or throwing rescue is possible, and explain why and how a rescue swimmer should avoid contact with the victim.

9a. Participate in a school, community, or troop program on the dangers of using drugs, alcohol, and tobacco and other practices that could be harmful to your health. Discuss your participation in the program with your family, and explain the dangers of substance addictions.

9b. Explain the three R's of personal safety and protection.

10. Earn an amount of money agreed upon by you and your parent, then save at least 50 percent of that money.

11. Demonstrate Scout spirit by living the Scout Oath (Promise) and Scout Law in your everyday life. Discuss four specific examples (different from those used for Tenderfoot requirement 13) of how you have lived the points of the Scout Law in your daily life.

12. Participate in a Scoutmaster conference.

13. Complete your board of review.

First Class Rank Requirements
Demonstrate how to find directions during the day and at night without using a compass.
Using a map and compass, complete an orienteering course that covers at least one mile and requires measuring the height and/or width of designated items (tree, tower, canyon, ditch, etc.).
Since joining, have participated in 10 separate troop/patrol activities (other than troop/patrol meetings), three of which included camping overnight. Demonstrate the principles of Leave No Trace on these outings.
Help plan a patrol menu for one campout that includes at least one breakfast, one lunch, and one dinner, and that requires cooking at least two of the meals. Tell how the menu includes the foods from the food pyramid and meets nutritional needs.
Using the menu planned in requirement 4a, make a list showing the cost and food amounts needed to feed three or more boys and secure the ingredients.
Tell which pans, utensils, and other gear will be needed to cook and serve these meals.
Explain the procedures to follow in the safe handling and storage of fresh meats, dairy products, eggs, vegetables, and other perishable food products. Tell how to properly dispose of camp garbage, cans, plastic containers, and other rubbish.
On one campout, serve as your patrol's cook. Supervise your assistant(s) in using a stove or building a cooking fire. Prepare the breakfast, lunch, and dinner planned in requirement 4a. Lead your patrol in saying grace at the meals and supervise cleanup.
Visit and discuss with a selected individual approved by your leader (elected official, judge, attorney, civil servant, principal, teacher) your constitutional rights and obligations as a U.S. citizen.
Identify or show evidence of at least 10 kinds of native plants found in your community.
Discuss when you should and should not use lashings. Then demonstrate tying the timber hitch and clove hitch and their use in square, shear, and diagonal lashings by joining two or more poles or staves together.
Use lashing to make a useful camp gadget.
Demonstrate tying the bowline knot and describe several ways it can be used.
Demonstrate bandages for a sprained ankle and for injuries on the head, the upper arm, and the collarbone.
Show how to transport by yourself, and with one other person, a person
From a smoke-filled room
With a sprained ankle, for at least 25 yards
Tell the five most common signals of a heart attack. Explain the steps (procedures) in cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR).
Tell what precautions must be taken for a safe trip afloat.
Successfully complete the BSA swimmer test.*
With a helper and a practice victim, show a line rescue both as tender and as rescuer. (The practice victim should be approximately 30 feet from shore in deep water.)
Tell someone who is eligible to join Boy Scouts, or an inactive Boy Scout, about your troop's activities. Invite him to a troop outing, activity, service project, or meeting. Tell him how to join, or encourage the inactive Boy Scout to become active.
Describe the three things you should avoid doing related to use of the Internet. Describe a cyberbully and how you should respond to one.
Demonstrate Scout spirit by living the Scout Oath (Promise) and Scout Law in your everyday life. Discuss four specific examples (different from those used for Tenderfoot requirement 13 and Second Class requirement 11) of how you have lived the points of the Scout Law in your daily life.
Participate in a Scoutmaster conference.
Complete your board of review.

Boy Scout Life Rank Requirements
Be active in your unit (and patrol if you are in one) for at least six months as a Star Scout.
Demonstrate Scout spirit by living the Scout Oath (Promise) and Scout Law in your everyday life.
Earn five more merit badges (so that you have 11 in all), including any three more from the required list for Eagle. (See the Eagle Rank Requirements, number 3, for this list.) A Scout may choose any of the 15 required merit badges in the 12 categories to fulfill this requirement.
While a Star Scout, take part in service project(s) totaling at least six hours of work. These projects must be approved by your Scoutmaster.
While a Star Scout, serve actively for six months in one or more of the troop positions of responsibility listed in requirement 5 for Star Scout (or carry out a Scoutmaster-assigned leadership project to help the troop).
While a Star Scout, use the EDGE method to teach a younger Scout the skills from ONE of the following six choices, so that he is prepared to pass those requirements to his unit leader’s satisfaction.
a. Second Class—7a and 7c (first aid)
b. Second Class—1a (outdoor skills)
c. Second Class—3c, 3d, 3e, and 3f (cooking/camping)
d. First Class—8a, 8b, 8c, and 8d (first aid)
e. First Class—1, 7a, and 7b (outdoor skills)
f. First Class—4a, 4b, and 4d (cooking/camping)
g. Three requirements from one of the required Eagle merit badges, as approved by your unit leader.
Take part in a Scoutmaster conference.
Complete your board of review.

Boy Scouts Eagle Rank Requirements
Be active in your troop, team, crew, or ship for a period of at least six months after you have achieved the rank of Life Scout.
Demonstrate that you live by the principles of the Scout Oath and Law in your daily life. List the names of individuals who know you personally and would be willing to provide a recommendation on your behalf, including parents/guardians, religious, educational, and employer references.
Earn a total of 21 merit badges (10 more than you already have), including the following:
First Aid
Citizenship in the Community
Citizenship in the Nation
Citizenship in the World
Personal Fitness
Emergency Preparedness OR Lifesaving
Environmental Science
Personal Management
Swimming OR Hiking OR Cycling
Family Life
You must choose only one merit badge listed in items g and j. If you have earned more than one of the badges listed in items g and j, choose one and list the remaining badges to make your total of 21.
While a Life Scout, serve actively for a period of six months in one or more of the following positions of responsibility:
Boy Scout troop. Patrol leader, assistant senior patrol leader, senior patrol leader, Venture patrol leader, troop guide, Order of the Arrow troop representative, den chief, scribe, librarian, historian, quartermaster, junior assistant Scoutmaster, chaplain aide, instructor, Webmaster, or Leave No Trace Trainer.
Varsity Scout team. Captain, cocaptain, program manager, squad leader, team secretary, Order of the Arrow team representative, librarian, historian, quartermaster, chaplain aide, instructor, den chief, Webmaster, or Leave No Trace Trainer.
Venturing crew/ship. President, vice president, secretary, treasurer, quartermaster, historian, den chief, guide, boatswain, boatswain's mate, yeoman, purser, storekeeper, Webmaster, or Leave No Trace Trainer.
While a Life Scout, plan, develop, and give leadership to others in a service project helpful to any religious institution, any school, or your community. (The project must benefit an organization other than Boy Scouting.) A project proposal must be approved by the organization benefiting from the effort, your unit leader and unit committee, and the council or district before you start. You must use the Eagle Scout Service Project Workbook, BSA publication No. 512-927, in meeting this requirement. (To learn more about the Eagle Scout service project, see the Guide to Advancement, topics through
Take part in a unit leader conference.
Successfully complete an Eagle Scout board of review.

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