The National Parks are well ran and enjoyable -2

Best reasons to agree: +

1. The government has to keep people from feeding bears, to prevent bears from becoming dependent on people. 

Best reasons to disagree: -

1. There is no reason to have government owned gas stations within the park. 
2. More buildings could be built within the state park in such a way that doesn't detract from the natural features  You could require the buildings be LEED certified, to appease the environmentalist. The could be designed so as not to interfere with wildlife. 
3. The government should be more capitalistic with our state parks, in a smart way. When I say capitalism  you think Wal-Mart. Don't. Think Apple, Whole Food, Trader Joe, or Costco. We can combine the best of capitalism and scientific preservation of a wildlife.  Charging rich people to have a premium experience can fund wildlife preservation, and fund improvements that poor people can also experience. For instance, Indian Reservations that are not controlled by the federal government build glass bottom deck floors over the grand canyon. This does not hurt anything. Of course if too many people are driving on roads, than it might disrupt migration and stuff, but we can figure this stuff out...

Score:

# of reasons to agree: +1

# of reasons to disagree: -3

# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0

# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0

Total Idea Score: +2

Yellowstone, 1978ish. Me getting pushed around Yellowstone 
like Royalty

Summer 2011. Wild Bison! James getting carried around like royalty. 

Old Faithful, Summer 2011. Sunsets really are better in the west, when
surrounded by wild elements. 

2011. A cool bike we saw in Yellowstone

2011. Megan and I will cruse the country on bikes like this

Background and Context:

I've been to Yellowstone a couple times as a kid, once with Just Megan, and now once with our 3 kids.

I really like seeing the wild life. I remember the bison surrounding our car when I was little, seeing Bald Eagles, Elk with Megan.

Megan also went to Yellowstone as a kid, but she wouldn't get out of the car because of the smell!

Images that agree:

My parents. Grotto Geyser.

My Mom. I think this is Old Faithful. 

My Mom. I think this is Old Faithful. 

You could get a lot closer to the geysers back then. 

You would see more wildlife in the olden days. 

My parents. 

My mom and I at Mesa Falls (near Yellowstone)

In Jr. High my parents took BJ Morris and I to Yellowstone. I remember buying these shorts at Fred Meyers. 

 

In Jr. High my parents took BJ Morris and I to Yellowstone. I think this is a place called Big Springs, where you can see a whole bunch of fish, and the water comes right out of a mountain... or this might be fishing bridge...

Those shorts were awsome. BJ had a max headroom shirt. 

The Yellowstone Canyon

My dad at Old Faithful

Marvin Laub is tough

Reasons to agree: 2

1. He recovered from knee and brain surgery, never complaining, and remaining cheerful and up-beat.
2. He worked hard his whole life. Even at 79 years old he is still working, giving drivers training tests (Its not dangerous. These kids are already driving with their parents for a few months. My dad drives safe places with them, and gives them all very straight forward exams).
3. He raised 5 kids, without ever really freaking out. You have to endure a lot of stuff to do that, and he did it with great strength.

Images that agree: 2

My Dad, being tough

My dad ruff-housing with his kids (I'm the baby).

Mesa Falls Idaho is worth the trip and is well managed

Best reasons to agree: +

1. It is safe to bring your kids, as long as you watch them. Its a pretty good water fall.
2. Upper Mesa Falls is roughly 114 feet high and 200 feet wide.
3. Our daughter really liked learning about the animals, going around and touching all the different furs... Maybe she will be a fashion designer some day?

Best reasons to disagree: -

1. They should put a zip line across the canyon and charge people to go across.
2. They should build a safe way to talk down to the river.
3. They are overly protective of kids picking flowers... This lady yelled at us when our 2 year old picked a wild flower. If flowers are going extentct we should use money to grow them. We should also sell them as extremely rare items, and and use the money we make to farm them. It is nice to have stuff growing in the wild but first we need to ensure their survival. If they are not endangered, and these government-types just like the feeling of power of yelling at parents for allowing their 2 year olds to pick a flower, than we should probably change things... They have parking lots and trails that killed these flowers much worse than my daughter. Their are thousands of miles of back-country that are owned by the federal government that they don't allow roads to be built.. There are places for wild flowers to grow... But if a little girl picks a flower, than to freakin bad... I know... I know... if every little girl who visitied picked a flower, than there might not be as many flowers within 100 or 200 feet of the parking lot of these places... but for Pete's sake, if they are that endangered, we should transplant them to green houses somewhere... I don't see this lady chasing deer away from flowers... I don't see hear going into the back country, if one of these flowers is not getting enough water, and brining it water... give me a break.
4. Besides just being a place that you look at for a half an hour or so, or have a picknick at, it probably won't be to life altering of a visit. I have heard that you can walk along the canyon edge, and walk down to lower Mesa Falls, but things like that are tough to do with kids.

Score:

# of reasons to agree: +3

# of reasons to disagree: -4

# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0

# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0

Total Idea Score: -1 

My mom and I before they built the walk way. 

Mesa Falls is outside of Yellowstone, was close to where I went to college in 95, 98



Mesa Falls in 1998



Mesa Falls, 2011. Megan and Russ (her Brother)



Mesa Falls, 2011

At the visitor's center at Mesa Falls standing in-front of  some sort of stuffed animal. 



Rolling Stone's list of Best Albums of all time is a good one

Background, Context, and Assumptions
Of course people can judge music by whatever criteria you want. How do you judge good music (don't just say you just like it!). For instance you can judge music by these criteria:

1. How hard it is to play. For me this is not an important criteria. I guess if you play an instrument, you could enjoy a solo artist really push themselves. Craftsman ship is important. But at the end of the day, you can punch notes into a computer, and a computer could replace Eddie Van Halen's finger, but I hope it could not replace his best lyrics. Lavish craftsmanship looses most all of its appeal when not used to support an important truth.
2. How innovative it is. Creativity is a great way to decorate music, but you have to have the substance of good music, and a good melody. I have read some great criticisms of experimental a-tonal college music. 
3. Good songs can just be songs that capture a feeling really well, but in order for a song to be considered great, you would think that you would rank everything a 10... There is nothing wrong with listening to OK songs, but when listing the best songs, you should only include songs that have great lyrics with good meanings, good message, a great melody, etc...

Rolling Stone's list of Best Songs of all time is a good one
Best reasons to disagree: -

1. I would like a list of best albums that totally ignored cover art. I propose that albums should not be judged by cover art, which Rolling Stones mentions many times praising Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. 
2. I would like to see a list of the best music, that does not reward musicians for trying to be too clever. It seems like that kind of stuff comes and goes, but you can't listen to it very often, because it gets old. Lyrics should not be obscure. People are too afraid to live life, and so they hide any meaning by trying to be clever. Musicians need to learn the importance of being Ernest. 
3. Good music is music from cool people saying important things in a sincere and beautiful way. Cool people are not people who suck at life. Good music is not music written by self-obsessed losers at the middle of the night, when they can't get their life together after their girl-friend broke up with them. Its not music telling people how cool they are. It is not music from someone you don't respect saying something stupid. It is written by people you can respect, who have lived a good life and have something to say. You shouldn't be allowed to write music when your a teenager. You don't have anything to say. 
4. Music shouldn't be important because it created the hippy movement, or got girls to stop wearing bras for a few years... The music should be important if it had messages that successful people are able to believe for hundreds of years. 

Score:

# of reasons to agree: +0

# of reasons to disagree: -4

# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0

# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0

Total Idea Score: +0

Rolling Stone's list of Best Songs of all time, with reasons to agree or disagree that they are "great" songs
1 Bob Dylan Like A Rolling Stone
Best reasons to disagree: -

1. This song is just some immature looser experiencing schadenfreude when a girl falls. We all know people like this. They are called jerks. It is stupid that some guy going on about how awesome it is is when someone is having a hard time is considered the best our culture has to offer. 

2 Rolling Stones Satisfaction
3 John Lennon Imagine

Best reasons to disagree: -

1. Communalism does not work 

4 Marvin Gaye What's Going On
5 Aretha Franklin Respect
6 Beach Boys Good Vibrations
7 Chuck Berry Johnny B. Goode
8 Beatles Hey Jude
9 Nirvana Smells Like Teen Spirit
10 Ray Charles What'd I Say (Live Berlin) 1962
11 Who My Generation
12 Sam Cooke A Change Is Gonna Come
13 Beatles Yesterday
14 Bob Dylan Blowin' in The Wind
15 The Clash London Calling
16 Beatles I Want To Hold Your Hand
17 Jimi Hendrix Purple Haze
18 Chuck Berry Maybellene
19 Elvis Presley Hound Dog
20 Beatles Let It Be
21 Bruce Springsteen Born To Run
22 The Ronettes Be My Baby
23 Beatles In My Life
24 The Impressions People Get Ready
25 Beach Boys God Only Knows
26 Otis Redding (Sitting On) The Dock Of The Bay
27 Derek And The Dominos Layla
28 Beatles A Day In The Life
29 Beatles Help
30 Johnny Cash I Walk The Line
31 Led Zeppelin Stairway To Heaven
32 Rolling Stones Sympathy For The Devil
33 Tina Turner River Deep, Mountain High
34 The Righteous Brothers You've Lost That Loving Feeling
35 The Doors Light My Fire
36 U2 One
37 Bob Marley No Woman No Cry
38 Rolling Stones Gimme Shelter
39 Buddy Holly That'll Be The Day
40 Martha And The Vandellas Dancing In The Streets
41 Band The Weight
42 Kinks Waterloo Sunset
43 Little Richard Tutti Frutti
44 Ray Charles Georgia On My Mind
45 Elvis Presley Heartbreak Hotel
46 David Bowie Heroes
47 Jimi Hendrix All Along The Watchtower
48 Simon And Garfunkel Bridge Over Troubled Water
49 The Eagles Hotel California
50 Smokey Robinson The Tracks Of My Tears
51 Grandmaster Flash The Message
52 Prince When Doves Cry
53 Percy Sledge When A Man Loves A Woman
54 The Kingsmen Louie Louie
55 Little Richard Long Tall Sally
56 Sex Pistols Anarchy In The U K
57 Procol Harum A Whiter Shade Of Pale
58 Michael Jackson Billie Jean
59 Bob Dylan The Times They Are A-changin'
60 Al Green Let's Stay Together
61 Jerry Lee Lewis Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin' On
62 Bo Diddley Bo Diddley
63 Buffalo Springfield For What It's Worth
64 Beatles She Loves You
65 Cream Sunshine Of Your Love
66 Bob Marley Redemption Song
67 Elvis Presley Jailhouse Rock
68 Bob Dylan Tangled Up In Blue
69 Roy Orbison Crying
70 Dionne Warwick Walk On By
71 James Brown Papa's Got A Brand New Bag, Pt.1
72 Beach Boys California Girls
73 Stevie Wonder Superstition
74 Cochran Eddie Summertime Blues
75 Led Zeppelin Whole Lotta Love
76 Beatles Strawberry Fields Forever
77 Elvis Presley Mystery Train
78 James Brown I Feel Good
79 The Byrds Mr. Tambourine Man
80 Kinks You Really Got Me
81 Marvin Gaye I Heard It Through The Grapevine
82 Fats Domino Blueberry Hill
83 Beatles Norwegian Wood (this Bird Has Flown)
84 The Police Every Breath You Take
85 Patsy Cline Crazy
86 Bruce Springsteen Thunder Road
87 Johnny Cash Ring Of Fire
88 Temptations My Girl
89 The Mamas & The Papas California Dreamin'
90 The Five Satins In The Still Of The Night
91 Elvis Presley Suspicious Minds
92 The Ramones Blitzkrieg Bop
93 U2 I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
94 Little Richard Good Golly Miss Molly
95 Carl Perkins Blue Suede Shoes
96 Jerry Lee Lewis Great Balls Of Fire
97 Chuck Berry Roll Over Beethoven
98 Al Green Love And Happiness
99 Creedence Clearwater Revival Fortunate Son
100 Gnarls Barkley Crazy


Rolling Stone's list of Best Albums of all time is a good one

Find reasons to agree or disagree that the albums below deserve their spot.

1 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band The Beatles 1967
Best reasons to disagree: -

1. The first song on the album "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" has no meaning. It is nonsense  We are a stupid species if we are still playing it, outside of a history lesson, for personal enjoyment, 200 years from now. The words could be in a language that you don't understand, and the song would be better for you because they wouldn't distract you. Lyrics should make you think. It might be fine for them to set up the album with an alternative band, so they could do whatever they wanted, but they didn't have to subject us to it, and we shouldn't keep playing it, as if it is still important or insightful. You shouldn't be nostalgic over stupid things. If this song means anything to you, you are stupid. 

2 Pet Sounds Beach Boys 1966
3 Revolver The Beatles 1966
4 Highway 61 Revisited Bob Dylan 1965
5 Rubber Soul The Beatles 1965
6 What's Going On Marvin Gaye 1971
7 Exile On Main St. Rolling Stones 1972
8 London Calling The Clash 1979
9 Blonde On Blonde Bob Dylan 1966
10 The Beatles (The White Album) The Beatles 1968
 
11 The Sun Sessions Elvis Presley 1976
12 Kind Of Blue Miles Davis 1959
13 Velvet Underground & Nico Velvet Underground 1967
14 Abbey Road The Beatles 1969
15 Are You Experienced? Jimi Hendrix Experience 1967
16 Blood On The Tracks Bob Dylan 1975
17 Nevermind Nirvana 1991
18 Born To Run Bruce Springsteen 1975
19 Astral Weeks Van Morrison 1968
20 Thriller Michael Jackson 1982
 
21 The Great Twenty-Eight Chuck Berry 1982
22 Plastic Ono Band John Lennon 1970
23 Innervisions Stevie Wonder 1973
24 Live At The Apollo James Brown 1963
25 Rumours Fleetwood Mac 1977
26 The Joshua Tree U2 1987
27 King Of The Delta Blues Singers, Vol. 1 Robert Johnson 1961
28 Who's Next The Who 1971
29 Led Zeppelin I Led Zeppelin 1969
30 Blue Joni Mitchell 1971
 
31 Bringing It All Back Home Bob Dylan 1965
32 Let It Bleed Rolling Stones 1969
33 Ramones Ramones 1976
34 Music From Big Pink The Band 1968
35 The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust And The Spiders From Mars David Bowie 1972
36 Tapestry Carole King 1971
37 Hotel California The Eagles 1976
38 The Anthology, 1947 - 1972 Muddy Waters 2001
39 Please Please Me The Beatles 1963
40 Forever Changes Love 1968
 
41 Never Mind The Bollocks, Here's The Sex Pistols Sex Pistols 1977
42 The Doors The Doors 1967
43 Dark Side Of The Moon Pink Floyd 1973
44 Horses Patti Smith 1975
45 The Band The Band 1969
46 Legend Bob Marley & The Wailers 1984
47 A Love Supreme John Coltrane 1964
48 It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back Public Enemy 1988
49 At Fillmore East Allman Brothers Band 1971
50 Here's Little Richard Little Richard 1957
 
51 Bridge Over Troubled Water Simon & Garfunkel 1970
52 Greatest Hits Al Green 1975
53 The Birth of Soul: The Complete Atlantic Rhythm and Blues Recordings, 1952 - 1959 Ray Charles 1991
54 Electric Ladyland Jimi Hendrix Experience 1968
55 Elvis Presley Elvis Presley 1956
56 Songs In The Key Of Life Stevie Wonder 1976
57 Beggars Banquet Rolling Stones 1968
58 Trout Mask Replica Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band 1969
59 Meet The Beatles! The Beatles 1964
60 Greatest Hits Sly & The Family Stone 1970
 
61 Appetite For Destruction Guns N' Roses 1987
62 Achtung Baby U2 1991
63 Sticky Fingers Rolling Stones 1971
64 Phil Spector, Back to Mono (1958 - 1969) various artists 1991
65 Moondance Van Morrison 1970
66 Led Zeppelin IV Led Zeppelin 1971
67 The Stranger Billy Joel 1977
68 Off The Wall Michael Jackson 1979
69 Superfly Curtis Mayfield 1972
70 Physical Graffiti Led Zeppelin 1975
 
71 After The Gold Rush Neil Young 1970
72 Purple Rain Prince 1984
73 Back In Black AC/DC 1980
74 Otis Blue: Otis Redding Singles Soul Otis Redding 1965
75 Led Zeppelin II Led Zeppelin 1969
76 Imagine John Lennon 1971
77 The Clash The Clash 1977
78 Harvest Neil Young 1972
79 Star Time James Brown 1991
80 Odessey & Oracle The Zombies 1968
 
81 Graceland Paul Simon 1986
82 Axis: Bold As Love Jimi Hendrix Experience 1968
83 I Never Loved A Man The Way I Love You Aretha Franklin 1967
84 Lady Soul Aretha Franklin 1968
85 Born In The U.S.A. Bruce Springsteen 1984
86 Let It Be The Beatles 1970
87 The Wall Pink Floyd 1979
88 Johnny Cash At Folsom Prison Johnny Cash 1968
89 Dusty In Memphis Dusty Springfield 1968
90 Talking Book Stevie Wonder 1972
 
91 Goodbye Yellow Brick Road Elton John 1973
92 20 Golden Greats Buddy Holly 1978
93 Sign O' The Times Prince 1987
94 Bitches Brew Miles Davis 1970
95 Green River Creedence Clearwater Revival 1969
96 Tommy The Who 1969
97 The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan Bob Dylan 1963
98 This Year's Model Elvis Costello 1978
99 There's A Riot Goin' On Sly & The Family Stone 1972
100 In The Wee Small Hours Frank Sinatra 1954

We can create a better list of really great songs than Rolling Stone Magazine
(Songs that aren't afraid of having meaning)
Best reasons to agree: -

1. Time by Pink Floyd is better than any of the top 10 songs on the Rolling Stone List. Your life would not be missing anything important if you never listened to "Like a Rolling Stone" by Bob Dillion. But I would feel a little bad for you if you have never really listened to Time by Pink floyed.
   Time has an important message that you should not let your life slip by. It doesn't really tell you what to do, but it much better than the other songs.
2. Cats in the Cradle by Harry Chapin has a great message. It tells you that you get out of a relationship what you put into it, and that you should sieze the day. These are important messsenges, and they are done well in the song.
3. Forever Young is a good song, because it expresses a real emotion, that is productive to explore. Thinking about mortality is benificial unlike the way that Bob Dillion is just expressing his joy at someone who used to be Rich, getting their come-up-ins in his song "Like A Rolling Stone", that Rolling Stone was the highest achiviment of Western Music.
4. Hallelujah by Rufus Wainwright summerizes a lot of history and relationships in an insightful way.
5. Just The Two Of Us by Will Smith allows people who are overly concerned with looking manley, see themselves as good dads.
6. You can disagree with Charlene but "I've Never Been To Me" makes her argument about what is important in life very well.
7. "Kiss An Angel Good Morning" by Charley Pride gives practical marriage advice. One by Creed is sort of Cheesy, but it is a great call for unity.
8. What A Wonderful World by Louis Armstrong has a great message of appreciation. Armstrongs voice is great.

You should keep track of your favorite songs

Bad Poetry

Hot Lips Grandma
White paint peels from the door,
rusty hinges let loose a loud creek.
A small gray mouse scurries across the floor,
as cockroaches wander around the house.

I dread the encounter,
puckering, grandma opens her arms.
Her musty smell fills my nostrils,
there is no escape...
grandma's livery lips strike again.

Chat gpt's version

"Peeling White Door"

Beneath the chipping white paint of the door,

Rusted hinges groan, echoing through the hall.

A nimble gray mouse darts across the creaking floor,

While shadows of cockroaches dance on the wall.

With trepidation, I step into the embrace,

As Grandma opens her arms, her eyes aglow.

A scent of old books and lavender fills the space,

Inescapable, yet strangely comforting though.

Her lips, a vivid red, draw near with a tale,

Of years gone by and love that never fails.

In this moment, Grandma's affection prevails,

A kiss from the past, where warmth never pales.


Unnamed
I don't want to die,
let alone grow old.
So mind don't show me,
body grow cold.

I cannot face
the fate of man

I am still waiting for life to bagan
I am still waiting for a friend who is true
I am still waiting for a little respect
I am still waiting for life to make sense...

And the ultra-sound
shows a new little life
My current concerns will now take a past tense.

Chat gpt's version

"Unspoken Fears"

Fearing the final breath, the end of days,

Resisting the march of time, its unyielding hold.

Wishing my mind to veil the inevitable ways,

As my body surrenders, grows weary and cold.

Confronting destiny, mankind's shared plight,

Seems more than my heart can stand.

Yet here I linger, in life's uncertain light,

Awaiting a genuine friend to take my hand.

Longing for just a whisper of esteem,

Hoping for clarity in life's chaotic dream.

Then, in the hush of a moment, pure and serene,

An ultrasound reveals a new life, unseen.

With this promise, my present fears lose their sheen,

As the future unfolds, a journey unforeseen.

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The Google chrome book is a good buy +5

Reasons to agree: +7

1. It is light
2. It starts instantly
3. It has a good keyboard
4. Most all hotels have free wi-fi
5. There is now annoying fan with moving parts that makes noise and breaks.
6. There is now annoying hard drive with moving parts that makes noise and breaks.
7. Google has apps to edit documents including spreadsheets, and presentations

Reasons to disagree: -2

1. It takes getting used to use apps, and keeping your files on Google Drive
2. It takes getting used to, to use only the backspace, and never use the delete button.

Score:

# of reasons to agree: +7

# of reasons to disagree: -2

# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0

# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0

Total Idea Score: +5

Don't like the score? It is easy to change the score. Just post a reason to agree or disagree with the overall idea, or any of the reasons and the score will change.

Kids are fun +1

Best reasons to agree: +4

1. Kids remind you what it was like when you were a kid.
2. Kids connect you to the future.
3. Kids get to know what you are really like
4. Kids give you excuses to do stupid stuff. If you didn't have kids, it might be hard to:
1. go sledding. 
2. go swimming. Its hard to play Marco Polo as an adult.

Best reasons to disagree: -4

1.  Throw up, crying, and whining are not fun
2. When you go to the museums with kids, you can't take your time, because they have short attention spans. 
3. It is hard to go back-packing in Europe with kids.
4. It is hard to try new food with kids. All they eat is McDonald's. 

Score:

# of reasons to agree: +4

# of reasons to disagree: -4

# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +2

# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0

Total Idea Score: +4-4+2/2=1

Videos that agree:

Beliefs that support this post:

1. You should back-up family videos to YouTube. 

Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way

Reasons to agree

1. All happy families have respect and kindness to each other. 
2. Unhappy families can 

Reasons to 

Bolingbrook has pretty good parks. -2

Reasons to agree: + 1

1. There are a lot of Bolingbrook parks.
2. Kids don't need anything special, but each neighborhood should have open places for kids to play soccer, baseball, or swing on a swing-set. Bolingbrook has that.

Reasons to disagree: -2

1. Often Bolingbrook parks are occupied by thuggish territorial teenagers (reason to disagree: this happens everywhere, perhaps).
2. Often Bolingbrook parks have small vandalization. 
3. Bolingbrook doesn't have parking for hardly any of their parks... its mostly just street parking.
4. Very few of Bolingbrook parks are connected with bike paths

Score:

# of reasons to agree: +2

# of reasons to disagree: -4

# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0

# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0

Total Idea Score: -2

Century Park Bolingbrook, Illinois
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• Parking: On the street
• Safety:
• Parking is an issue, as it gets very congested, and cars are trying to get through the area.
• Facilities
• Slides
• Swings
• Small Soccer Field

The kids playing at the park, while J was at Soccer Practice.
Serious
Great Expression. Poor lighting

Videos that agree:

Hidden Lakes

Hidden Lakes

Popular Park, Bolingbrook, IL

• Parking: On the street
• Safety?
• My kid got his finger stuck in the slidey thing. 
• Facilities
• 2 slides
• 2 Swings, 2 child swings
• Voice tubes
• Volleyball court (bring your own net)
• Lots of toads / frogs in the evening