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Reasons to agree Churches should not tell a sanitized version of their history.  The ends do not Justify the means. If the Church is  beautiful , people should be able to recognize its  beauty  without liposuction, implants, or masks. If the Church has warts, it should accept them, like Cindy Crawford did.  Beuty is in the eye of the behold. Churches shouldn't try to change their past, they should just be honest about it and move forward.  Reasons to disagree All complete stories are too long. Everyone has to pick and chose which stories to tell, and people with faith are going to pick the faith promoting aspects of history. Mormons know that Anti Mormons are going to tell all the negative aspects. If anyone is going to tell the positive story, the only people to do it is the Mormons. Mormons believe that not being a Member leads to more sin and suffering in the world, and so they justify themselves, which makes sense from that perspective.  It is OK f...

Reasons to agree The Ninth Commandment - Thou Shalt Not Lie "Only error needs to fear freedom of expression" Hugh B. Brown "Now I have mentioned freedom to express your thoughts, but I caution you that your thoughts and expressions must meet competition in the market place of thought, and in that competition truth will emerge triumphant. Only error needs to fear freedom of expression. Seek truth in all fields, and in that search you will need at least three virtues; courage, zest, and modesty. The ancients put that thought in the form of a prayer. They said, 'From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth, from the laziness that is content with half truth, from the arrogance that thinks it has all truth—O God of truth deliver us'." ~ Hugh B. Brown 1. Oh say, what is truth? ’Tis the fairest gem That the riches of worlds can produce, And priceless the value of truth will be when The proud monarch’s costliest diadem Is counted but dross and refuse. 2. Yes, say,...

Reasons to agree 7 Thus came the  a voice  of the Lord unto me, saying: All who have died  b without  a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be  c heirs  of the celestial kingdom of God; 8 Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who a would  have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom; 9 For I, the Lord, will  a judge  all men according to their  b works , according to the  c desire  of their hearts. 10 And I also beheld that all  a children  who die before they arrive at the  b years  of accountability are  c saved  in the celestial kingdom of heaven. Reasons to disagree The LDS Church sort of believes this, but they also tell people they will be held accountable if they choose to be ignorant.   Scriptures that agree Scriptures that disagree   Interest of those who agree Interest o...

Reasons to agree My mission president told me that Joseph Smith had never  consummated  any of his relationships outside of his marriage to Emma... this turns out to not be true. Very few members have herd that their are multiple conflicting accounts of the first vision.  A recent pope apologized for the Catholic church's complacency during the Holocaust.  Reasons to disagree  The Catholic church is not fully transparent about its  complacency  during the  holocaust .  Many Catholic churches have tried to cover up priest that have molested children.  Most southern churches are not honest about their previous support of slavery.  Gordon B. Hinckley dedicated a monument at the location of the mountain meadow  massacre .  Score : # of reasons to agree: 3 # of reasons to disagree: -4 # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0 # of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: 0 Total Idea Score: ...

Reasons to agree It is  hypocritical  for churches to lie about their past It is  hypocritical  for churches to cover up their past.  You interfere with someone's agency when you convince them to "choose" something based on incomplete or inaccurate information. A church should not feel good about converting people, if they don't tell them the Truth about their church.  According to LDS doctrine, an uninformed choice is not a valid exercise of agency for which someone is held accountable (and conversely, for which they can be rewarded) .  Score : # of reasons to agree: 5 # of reasons to disagree: -0 # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0 # of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: 0 Total Idea Score: 3 Don't like the score? It is easy to change the score. Just post a reason to agree or disagree with the overall idea, or any of the reasons and the score will change

Reasons to agree The family is separated for eternity as each is busily involved being the God of their respective worlds. (Some Latter-day Saints may argue they will be able to “visit” each other, but occasional visits hardly constitute being “together forever.”) The cruel reality is that there is no way within the Mormon system for a family to be together forever, not in the sense of being a family unit as it is so commonly portrayed. Because the LDS Church has made God in the image of man, the logical end result within the LDS system is that even in the best-case scenario LDS eternal families will suffer from the same sad realities as earthly families: children grow up, marry, move away, have their own children who grow up, marry and move away, literally worlds apart. In the other scenarios the separation is absolute and eternal as parents and children are relegated to different kingdoms whose borders are forever sealed. Reasons to disagree  What Mormons believe is that the...

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Reasons to agree There is no way we can get all the way back to Adam anyways... and so we are told that some work will have to happen during the millenium... but if we have access to angles and help during the millenium, and people who have died know who their parents and children are, then it should only take about a week or so to get it all done, with all the billions of people that are alive now... Reasons to disagree Score : # of reasons to agree: 1 # of reasons to disagree: -0 # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0 # of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: 0 Total Idea Score: 1 Don't like the score? It is easy to change the score. Just post a reason to agree or disagree with the overall idea, or any of the reasons and the score will change

Reasons to agree : +8 LDS church leaders have been more chauvinistic than most other religious leaders of their time . +6 Elder Erastus Snow said, in the Journal of Discourses, v.5 p.291 said: "Do you uphold your husband before God as your lord? ... No woman will get into the celestial kingdom, except her husband receives her, if she is worthy to have a husband; and if not, somebody will receive her as a servant." The LDS church has teachings that no other church has, that a wife is supposed obey her husband while her husband obeys the lord.  Polygamy is chauvinistic, no other church has, in the modern western world, allowed polygamy.  Until September 29th, 1978 women were not authorized to give prayers in sacrament meetings . As documented on the Church's website, under " Major Events in President Kimball’s Administration".  It is Chauvinistic to tell women that their place is in the home  (+1). The LDS church tells its female members, more than ...

Reasons to agree Reasons to disagree Score : # of reasons to agree: 13 # of reasons to disagree: -1 # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0 # of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: 0 Total Idea Score: -1 Don't like the score? It is easy to change the score. Just post a reason to agree or disagree with the overall idea, or any of the reasons and the score will change.