Hot topic now (again) . . . and that's GOOD NEWS!!
McCain supporters and his media apologists are claiming that McCain didn't support SS for illegals.
The truth is on our side
Illegals granted Social Security
The Washington Times
By: Charles Hurt
May 19, 2006
The Senate voted yesterday to allow illegal aliens to collect Social Security
benefits based on past illegal employment — even if the job was obtained
through forged or stolen documents.
"There was a felony they were committing, and now they can't be prosecuted. That
sounds like amnesty to me," said Sen. John Ensign, the Nevada Republican who
offered the amendment yesterday to strip out those provisions of the immigration
reform bill. "It just boggles the mind how people could be against this
amendment."
The Ensign amendment was defeated on a 50-49 vote.
"We all know that millions of undocumented immigrants pay Social Security and
Medicare taxes for years and sometimes decades while they work to contribute to
our economy," said Sen. John McCain, Arizona Republican.
"The Ensign amendment would undermine the work of these people by preventing
lawfully present immigrant workers from claiming Social Security benefits that
they earned before they were authorized to work in our community," he said. "If
this amendment were enacted, the nest egg that these immigrants have worked hard
for would be taken from them and their families."
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On The Issues has the info:
http://www.issues2000.org/2008/John_McCain_Immigration.htm
Voted YES on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security.
Voting YEA would table (kill) the proposed amendment to prohibit illegal immigrants from receiving Social Security benefits. Voting NAY supports that prohibition, while voting YEA supports immigrants participating in Social Security. Text of amendment:
To reduce document fraud, prevent identity theft, and preserve the integrity of the Social Security system, by ensuring that persons who receive an adjustment of status under this bill are not able to receive Social Security benefits as a result of unlawful activity.
* Proponents of the amendment say to vote NAY because:The Immigration Reform bill would allow people to qualify for social security based on work they did while they were illegally present in the US and illegally working in the US. People who broke the law to come here and broke the law to work here can benefit from their conduct to collect social security.
* In some cases, illegal immigrants may have stolen an American citizen's identity. They may have stolen an American's social security number to fraudulently work. This amendment corrects this problem.
* Opponents of the amendment say to vote YEA because: Americans understand that for years there are undocumented workers who have tried to follow our laws and be good neighbors and good citizens, and have paid into the Social Security Trust Fund.
* Once that person regularizes his or her status, and as they proceed down the path to earned citizenship, they should have the benefit after having followed the law and made those contributions. That is fairness.
* We should not steal their funds or empty their Social Security accounts. That is not fair. It does not reward their hard work or their financial contributions.
* The amendment proposes to change existing law to prohibit an individual from gaining the benefit of any contributions made while the individual was in an undocumented status. I oppose this amendment and believe it is wrong.
Reference: Preclusion of Social Security Credits; Bill S.Amdt.3985 to S.2611 ; vote number 2006-130 on May 18, 2006
Actually, under McCain's bill once Illegals gained citizenship they would be credited/payed back all of their social-security withholdings that they had accrued WHILE WORKING AND LIVING HERE ILLEGALLY.
That was a very disturbing part of the bill that McCain authored.
McCain DID support social security benefits for current illegals and that is what the ad claimed. I know that facts hurt, but McCain can only blame himself. Apparently McCain doesn't now support such benefits. That's the right side of the issue and I'm glad he's come over to it. But this has hardly been an area where we're getting any straight talk from Mr. McCain.
