Denver's weather is *better than Chicago's +3

Background, Context, and Assumptions

*Better will be different to different people. You can see my assumptions below. Obviously, employment opportunities, cultural events, and other opportunities are better in Chicago. But if your just a kids and don't care about anything in the summer time, but having nice weather to ride your bike around in, consider the discussion points below.

Best reasons to agree: +5
  1. The comfort index (with higher numbers being better) is 68 in Boise, 57 in Denver, but only 47 in Chicago. 
    1. I attribute that to how windy it is in the winter, and how the humidity will really get you in the summer, which everyone knows, but also gets you (I assert) in the winter. Places that get lots of rain are nice to look at in the summer, with all the green plants, but they aren't as comfortable outside if your kids just want to be outside doing stuff... 
  2. Chicago has 189 sunny days, Boise Idaho has 206, only 17 more than Chicago. 
    1. While Denver has 246. The average in the USA is 205, but 17 days a year is 1/2 a month each year of sunny weather... 
  3. Boise only has 11.7" of rain, but Chicago has 35.9" of rain, or 3.1 tunes the amount of rain of Boise. 
    1. Of course if you are a farmer you might like the rain. However, if you have a back yard and are a kid, usually rain is not so great. Especially if your parents don't have a concrete floor that can be hosed off periodically. Denver gets 12.6".
  4. Chicago gets 27.5". Boise gets about 70% as much with 19.5". Denver gets 54".
    1.   will say less is better. Especially because Boise is in the foothills and is much closer to world class skiing, snow mobiling, and anything that might make snow good. Boise does get enough to let you go sledding once a year, and gets many feet of snow in the mountains. 
  5. The Average high in July in Chicago is 83 and 90 in Boise. 86 in Denver. But it is a dry heat, and because of the high elevation it gets much cooler at night time, which makes sleeping comfortable. Megan hates (I think) summers in Chicago. Average January low is 22 in Boise and 18 in Chicago. So I guess Boise is 7 degrees hotter in summer and 4 degrees hotter in winter. Denver actually has a higher temperature in the Winter than Chicago, which surprises my friends from Chicago. 
  6. The springs are so rainy and short that you can't really enjoy them... It seems that you go strait from bitter cold to unbearable heat... The spring time is very painful, because you are dying to get outside after a long winter, but it is soo freakin rainy... No I'm not just talking about a little Seattle drizzle... it is a freakin torrential downpour. Rivers over-run their bounds, peoples basements get flooded... that just doesn't happen in Boise... Maybe it is because Lucky Peak dam stops the river from flooding. Maybe people in Boise are just smarter, and don't build their homes in flood planes, but every spring you hear about homes around the Chicago area getting flooded, so that the 1st level is almost completely under water. Maybe I just didn't pay attention when I was a kid, but I don't think that hardly ever happens in Idaho. Flash floods can kill campers who are near creeks... at least in the scouts that was a fear, but the girl who cleans my teeth's parents and aunt had their house totally covered with water with the stop sign out in-front of their street totally submerged... 

Best reasons to disagree: -
  1. Sure, if you live somewhere that gets lots of rain, you might get flooding. However, if you live in the West, your whole state might burn down each summer. So pick your poison: too much or not enough rain.
  2. Denver get more snow than Chicago, which can be bad for traffic, but is good for skiing and sledding and stuff. 
  3. Because Chicago gets more rain, you see less places that are just left to go to weeds in Chicago. Everything is green, and generally people mow their grass in Chicago. In Denver, people don't water that grass, it dies, goes to weeds, and sometimes looks crappier than Chicago. 
Score:
# of reasons to agree: +6
# of reasons to disagree: -3
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: +3

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Our back yard turns to a pond every summer.


Bolingbrook is a bit like Venice Italy


Its kind of hard to see, but through the aches you can see the bleacher that are mostly covered.

Best Videos that agree: +1


Dan Price is a good artistic role model +1


  1. Cameras can re-create images perfectly. Photo-realism can be achieved with very little money. 
  2. Its cool how Dan writes stuff with images. 
  1. Dan Price draws things he sees. Everyone's life is important. It is important to value your life, and to really look at the stuff around you. Sketching it force you to really see it, but sometimes art should do more... you can say important, powerful things visually... You can create something that makes people think, and act differently. Dan does this, but maybe it is more important to focus on doing a few really awesome paintings, or creations, instead of a exploring a whole bunch of new places... Its not like their is a right or a wrong... Every artist should do what their attention to detail, and boredom push them to do, but you shouldn't do all your art like Dan's. 

# of reasons to agree: 2
# of reasons to disagree: -1
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score:

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The Chicago Botanic Garden is a good place to take your kids +2

Best reasons to agree: +4
  1.  You can take pictures of your kids in a pretty places. For the cost of going to a professional studio, your kids can walk around and you can take pictures of them.
  2. You can people watch at the gardens, which you can't do in the wilderness. 
  3. You can get gardening ideas, and find plants you want in your yard at the botanic garden.
  4. They have paths, which is good if you have kids in strollers. 
  1. You can walk around and look at nature for free.
  2. You don't have to be around people if you just go out into nature. 
Score:
# of reasons to agree: +4
# of reasons to disagree: -2
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: +2


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Going to the zoo is worth your families time and money +0

Reasons to Agree: +3
  1. It is worth it to have animals be part of your life
  2. You should take your kids outside where they can walk around, see different people, and explore their surroundings. Kids get to see all different types of people at the zoo.
  3. You should teach your kids about Animals. Kids learn about Animals by going to the zoo. You can't learn to appreciate animals unless you see them. When kids learn about animals, they learn about biology which may result in medical interest. Medical interest can result in an interest in many different jobs, from pharmacy to being a doctor. Learning about animals also teaches about geography. At least it did for our kid, as he learned what animals lived where. 
Reasons to disagree: -2
  1. Usually people don't spend much time studying animals at the zoo. People tend to look at the animal, watch it for a few minutes, and move on... 
  2. Kids will learn more about animals by having a pet than going to a zoo. Letting your kids have a pet teaches your kids. Having a long time responsibility for an animal can teach you a lot. 
  3. Kids are taught that animal rights can be ignored when going to the zoo.

Score:
# of reasons to agree: +3
# of reasons to disagree: -3
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: +0

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Videos that agree:

This movie supports the conclusion because it shows that:
1. Kids can have authentic experiences with animals at zoos.
Dolphin show


Daughter dancing

Wolves
Youngest watching the giraffe. 
My oldest son doesn't know how to wear a hat...

Some zoos give animals lots of room

It is interesting watching kids learn to speak. +2

Best Videos that agree: +
  1. Kids come into this world knowing nothing. Without knowing any rules, just hearing other people speak, they are able to learn perhaps one of the most complex things they will ever do, in only a few years...
  2. Watching kids learn to speak, can remind you of your kids when they were doing that. 
  3. Just because you understand how mankind was able to learn how to speak, doesn't mean that it is less amazing, interesting, or that you should appreciate the miracle of life, and knowledge, and the ability to communicate less. 
  4. in A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's court Mark Twain spoke of the "darling mispronunciations of childhood".
Best reasons to disagree: -
  1. Animals don't have really complex words, but they are able to make noises, and have the begining of languages... Give them a few million years, and this could develop in non-spectacular ways, if you watched the slow progress.  
Score:
# of reasons to agree: +3
# of reasons to disagree: -1
# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
# of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
Total Idea Score: +2

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Best webpages that agree: +

      It is hard work but can be humorous teaching kids manners and hygiene

      Best Videos that agree: +2
      1. Kids eat things they should not eat. 
        1. Kids lick bird poop off sliding glass windows. 
        2. When you find brown stuff in their bed, and say it looks like poop, they just might tell you, "Don't worry, it doesn't taste like poop." When you ask why they tested it, they might say, "don't worry I didn't eat it, I just put my teeth on it". PS: it was, against all assurances, poop. We told her she needs to wash her hands, because she might get sick, she tells us, "I'm already sick" (she had a runny nose).
        3. Kids eat dirt.
        4. Kids eat rolly pollies (not ours, yet)
      2. Kids eat things that shouldn't be eaten, but won't eat anything you try to feed them. 
      3. It is funny seeing a little brain that has not yet learned that it is impolite to suck your toes in public...
      Score:
      # of reasons to agree: +3
      # of reasons to disagree: -0
      # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +4
      # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
      Total Idea Score: +3+4/2=5

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      Interest of those who agree: +
      1. Sanity
      2. Cleanliness
      3. Sanitation
      4. Control
      Interest of those who disagree: -
      1. Variety
      2. Legacy

        It is difficult to go out to eat with kids

        Best Videos that agree: +
        1. Kids love to explore new places they go to.
        2. Kids don't enjoy talking, and so they entertain them selves by messing around with stuff.
        3. Kids can't hold still very well.
        Best reasons to disagree: -3
        1. When they are really young they mostly just sleep
        2. If you bring stuff for kids to play with, they are OK. 
        3. Most restaurants accommodate kids. 
        Score:
        # of reasons to agree: +3
        # of reasons to disagree: -3
        # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: +0
        # of reasons to agree with reasons to disagree: -0
        Total Idea Score: +0

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