Oct 30, 2011

Opposition to gay marriage is not equivalent of racism






Reasons to agree:


  1. Racism is hatred of those that are different. You can't assume that those who feel that our country will be benefited by opposing gay marriage or motivated by hate. 

  2. Not all people who oppose gay marriage are bad people, but all racist are bad people. 

  3. Victims of racism and homophobia experience similar treatment, but from a political standpoint you can't just say that because one form of discrimination was bad, that all forms of discrimination is bad. Some forms of discrimination are good. It is good to discriminate against people who do bad things. We may disagree about what is a bad activity, but we will all agree that some activities should be discouraged... I know, I know what you want me to do... you want me to give an example of a very bad activity, and then you will scream at me and say how dare I compare being gay to doing that bad activity, and I will say, I wasn't comparing the two, I was just using an extreme example to prove my point, but no matter how much I win the logical debate, you will win the emotional debate, where it appeared that I was comparing being gay to doing this bad thing, which was not my intention. I have no problem with you being gay. I have no problem with gay marriage, really. But I want to play peace maker, and tell gay people that all supporters of DOMA are not bigots. 












Reasons to disagree:



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Probable interest of those who agree:




  1. They agree with the argument, outside of any interest or alterior motivation (30%)

  2. Confirmation bias (you decide that you don't like Obama, and so this becomes the prism that you see him. People always root for the home team, because over time they start to show interest, and then each new story tells them they were correct. When the other team acts badly, you get mad. When your team acts badly, you feel justified. You continue to identify with Obama, because you once did). 

  3. Your a Republican. He is on the other team. He is the enemy. 

  4. Party Affiliation Group-ism (Republican)

  5. Racism.

  6. Political laziness and issue crossover (15%)




Probable interest of those who disagree:










# of reasons to agree: 3





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Oct 22, 2011

Usually compassion is not a limitless resource


Reasons to agree:

  1. When you give money to try and help ex-cons get a job, someone else will not get that job. Maybe they will get another job, but at least some of the times the person that didn't get the job needed it more. 

  2. Even your ability to be kind is a resource. Maybe not little things like saying thank you, and stuff, but everyone has limited time in a day. 

  3. You can show compassion, but when you are in debt, your only responsibility is to get out of debt. 


Reasons to disagree:

  1. Sometimes you can show compassion, when it doesn't involve money, that helps people, but won't hurt anyone else. 


Probable interest of those who agree:


  1. They agree with the argument, outside of any interest or alterior motivation (30%)

  2. Confirmation bias (you decide that you don't like Obama, and so this becomes the prism that you see him. People always root for the home team, because over time they start to show interest, and then each new story tells them they were correct. When the other team acts badly, you get mad. When your team acts badly, you feel justified. You continue to identify with Obama, because you once did). 

  3. Your a Republican. He is on the other team. He is the enemy. 

  4. Party Affiliation Group-ism (Republican)

  5. Racism.

  6. Political laziness & issue crossover (15%)


Probable interest of those who disagree:

  1. They agree with the argument, outside of any interest or alterior motivation (30%)

  2. Pro black racial preference

  3. Liberal guilt (environment).

  4. Liberal guilt (race)

  5. Party Affiliation Group-ism (Democratic)

  6. The desire to promote more positive role models for our black youth

  7. Self Interest.

  8. Political laziness & issue crossover (15%)


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Oct 21, 2011

The USA should cut taxes +1




Reasons to agree:




  1. In "JFK's time, the government at all levels -- federal, state and local -- was consuming about 27 percent of the U.S. economy. Today it consumes about 37 percent of the U.S. economy.  It's on track to get to 40 percent.  We cease at some point to be a free economy. And the idea of saying, we just want a little more, just give us some more tax revenue, we need that, that is the answer for America." ~ Mitt Romney




Reasons to disagree:



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Probable interest of those who agree:




  1. Anti black racism

  2. Confirmation bias (you decide that you don't like Obama, and so this becomes the prism that you see him. People always root for the home team, because over time they start to show interest, and then each new story tells them they were correct. When the other team acts badly, you get mad. When your team acts badly, you feel justified. You continue to identify with Obama, because you once did). 

  3. Your a Republican. He is on the other team. He is the enemy. 




Probable interest of those who disagree:




  1. Pro black racial preference

  2. Your a Democrat. He is on the same team, against the enemy






























    # of reasons to agree: 1





    # of reasons to disagree: -0




    # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0




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    2009 stimulus was filled with waste and misconceptions +1

    stimulus tax credit, tax break, save, spend


    Reasons to agree:




    1. John Feehery. "Opinion: Obama’s fatal missteps." The Hill. October 3rd, 2011: "1. Failed to veto the initial stimulus package: Imagine for a moment if Obama had vetoed that initial stimulus package. Imagine if he insisted that Democratic leaders take out all the pork and cleanse the bill of unworthy projects. Imagine if he had insisted that congressional Democrats work with Republicans to include their ideas, because we are all in this together. He would have immediately branded himself as a different kind of president, as someone above the fray, as a leader who cares first about the country, not the Democratic Party. And if he had done that, he would have had the Republicans hopelessly divided. Of course, he didn’t take that step, congressional Democrats were able to walk all over him and Republicans stiffened up their resolve and presented a united front against the president and his plans."




    Reasons to disagree:



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    Probable interest of those who agree:




    1. Anti black racism

    2. Confirmation bias (you decide that you don't like Obama, and so this becomes the prism that you see him. People always root for the home team, because over time they start to show interest, and then each new story tells them they were correct. When the other team acts badly, you get mad. When your team acts badly, you feel justified. You continue to identify with Obama, because you once did). 

    3. Your a Republican. He is on the other team. He is the enemy. 




    Probable interest of those who disagree:




    1. Pro black racial preference

    2. Your a Democrat. He is on the same team, against the enemy















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    # of reasons to disagree: -0




    # of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0




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    Increasing taxes on big companies will limit job-creation +1




    Reasons to agree:




    1.  "Obama Could Skip the Class Warfare and Let the Oil and Gas Industry Create Jobs." Fox News. October 3rd, 2011: "President Obama conjured up his favorite boogeyman recently: the oil and gas industry. He reached for it when he released his job creation and deficit reduction package. Despite the fact that the oil and gas industry pays over $86 million a day in income taxes, royalties, bonuses and rents to the federal government, the president claimed that U.S. energy producers have not paid 'their fair share.' The president is proposing an additional $41 billion in new taxes on energy producers. This will result in higher energy prices, more oil imports, and in the end, few jobs in America. No wonder why the economy continues to be mired in an economic funk. President Obama is trying to exploit the misperception that the energy industry earns undo profits, when in fact it earned a net income of just 6 cents on the dollar. That compares unfavorably to the 8.6 cents for all U.S. manufacturing, according to third quarter 2010 data from API. But the president expects his class warfare argument to resonate beyond his core base of voters, he may be disappointed. Energy production reinvestments by oil and gas companies provided the United States with a $470 billion stimulus in spending, wages, and dividends in 2010, making it one of the few bright spots in the current economy. And it's ordinary middle-class American investors - millions of them, in fact - who own most oil company stock through mutual funds, pension funds, and retirement accounts. Ironically, the fine print of the President's proposal is riddled with job-killing shenanigans through the tax code. A study by Louisiana State University finance professor Joseph Mason concludes that just part of the president's plan would result in 155,000 job losses at the cost of $68 billion in lost wages. Obama's proposal is bad news to long-suffering American families at a time when the national unemployment remains fixed above 9 percent. Another irony is that the president's proposal would actually exacerbate the budget deficit. By increasing federal tax increase by $5 billion per year on the oil and gas industry, this would lead to lower domestic energy production as companies would produce less in the U.S. because of higher cost and instead import more oil. Instead of leading to higher government revenue, this scheme would result in a $128 billion loss for in government revenues, according to a study by energy research and consulting firm Wood Mackenzie."




    Reasons to disagree:



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    Probable interest of those who agree:




    1. Anti black racism

    2. Confirmation bias (you decide that you don't like Obama, and so this becomes the prism that you see him. People always root for the home team, because over time they start to show interest, and then each new story tells them they were correct. When the other team acts badly, you get mad. When your team acts badly, you feel justified. You continue to identify with Obama, because you once did). 

    3. Your a Republican. He is on the other team. He is the enemy. 




    Probable interest of those who disagree:




    1. Pro black racial preference

    2. Your a Democrat. He is on the same team, against the enemy






























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      The only way to fix the problem of the rich having too much money is for the government to take it from them




      Reasons to agree:




      1. You can call it "taxes" but when you say the government has too much money, you are really saying that you want to take what they earned. 




      Reasons to disagree:



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      Probable interest of those who agree:




      1. Anti black racism

      2. Confirmation bias (you decide that you don't like Obama, and so this becomes the prism that you see him. People always root for the home team, because over time they start to show interest, and then each new story tells them they were correct. When the other team acts badly, you get mad. When your team acts badly, you feel justified. You continue to identify with Obama, because you once did). 

      3. Your a Republican. He is on the other team. He is the enemy. 




      Probable interest of those who disagree:




      1. Pro black racial preference

      2. Your a Democrat. He is on the same team, against the enemy











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            Stimulus should have been bigger, not smaller as GOP claims




            Reasons to agree:




            1. "It needed to be bigger," according to Ezra Klein of the Washington Post and dozens of other economists such as Paul Krugman.




            Reasons to disagree:



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            Probable interest of those who agree:




            1. Anti black racism

            2. Confirmation bias (you decide that you don't like Obama, and so this becomes the prism that you see him. People always root for the home team, because over time they start to show interest, and then each new story tells them they were correct. When the other team acts badly, you get mad. When your team acts badly, you feel justified. You continue to identify with Obama, because you once did). 

            3. Your a Republican. He is on the other team. He is the enemy. 




            Probable interest of those who disagree:




            1. Pro black racial preference

            2. Your a Democrat. He is on the same team, against the enemy











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                  Obama did not start our wars or bad economy.




                  Reasons to agree:




                  1. George Bush wrongly started the Iraq war

                  2. George Bush wrongly started the war in Afghanistan

                  3. George Bush wrongly passed TARP. 




                  Reasons to disagree:



                  1. Obama wrongly kept us in Iraq

                  2. Obama wrongly kept us in Afghanistan

                  3. Obama wrongly started war with Libya.

                  4. Obama borrowed too much money.

                  5. Obama did not start the bad economy, but he made it worse.

                  6. Obama wrongly extended President Bush's tax cuts.

                  7. Obama did a very bad job at investing in green jobs








                  Probable interest of those who agree:




                  1. Anti black racism

                  2. Confirmation bias (you decide that you don't like Obama, and so this becomes the prism that you see him. People always root for the home team, because over time they start to show interest, and then each new story tells them they were correct. When the other team acts badly, you get mad. When your team acts badly, you feel justified. You continue to identify with Obama, because you once did). 

                  3. Your a Republican. He is on the other team. He is the enemy. 




                  Probable interest of those who disagree:




                  1. Pro black racial preference

                  2. Your a Democrat. He is on the same team, against the enemy











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                        # of reasons to disagree: -7




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                        Total Idea Score: 4









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