* "This is a subject about which people have tender emotions in part because it touches individual lives. It also has been misused by some as a means to promote intolerance and prejudice. This is a time when we must fight hate and bigotry, when we must root out prejudice, when we must learn to accept people who are different from one another. Like me, the great majority of Americans wish both to preserve the traditional definition of marriage and to oppose bias and intolerance directed towards gays and lesbians."
o Governor Mitt Romney, 06-22-2004 Press Release
* "Preserving the definition of marriage should not infringe on the right of individuals to live in the manner of their choosing. One person may choose to live as a single, even to have and raise her own child. Others may choose to live in same sex partnerships or civil arrangements. There is an unshakeable majority of opinion in this country that we should cherish and protect individual rights with tolerance and understanding. "
o Governor Mitt Romney, 06-22-2004 Press Release
I am trying to respond to this article, but I will do a better job later...
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/09/us/politics/09romney.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Governor Mitt Romney and Evangelicals are together on this. They have never tried to advance families with both Mothers and Fathers by discriminating against gays. Saying that children need both a Mother and a Father is not discrimination, it is siding with the child, who needs both a mother and a father more than the gay couple need children.
Evangelicals teach that you need to love the sinner, but hate the sin. Evangelicals agree with Romney. You don't advance families with a mother and a father, by allowing gays to be discriminated against in the work place. They are two separate issues. We need to stop bigotry towards gays, and we need to preserve the right for catholic charities to provide houses for needy children, even though they do not give children to gay couples. We should all be able to agree on this.
You read in this article by ADAM NAGOURNEY and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK of the New York times that "Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, who had praised Mr. Romney as a champion of traditional values at the group's conference in late September. "This type of information is going to create a lot of problems for Governor Romney. He is going to have a hard time overcoming this."
Is this quote from Adam or David taken out of context, because WHAT EXACTLY is Mitt Romney going to have to overcome? The belief that people should be treated with respect? Does the New York times think that this will become an issue with southern voters? The New York times keeps saying that it is Southern Evangelical voters that will not vote for a Mormon, but it is Liberal Democrats, who according to actual surveys who would never vote for someone who attends a Mormon church on Sunday. The New York times keeps implying that southern evangelicals who think children deserve both a Mother and a Father hate Gay people. It is liberal people at the New York Times that hate and demonize those that disagree with them.
<blockquote>Paul Weyrich, a founder of the modern conservative movement, said: "Unless he comes out with an abject repudiation of this, I think it makes him out to be a hypocrite. And if he totally repudiates this, you have to ask, on what grounds?"</blockquote>
People keep accusing Mitt Romney of Hypocrisy because he dares asserts that we should be nice to gay people but he does not define niceness by puting their rights to have children over the rights of children to have a mother and a father.
<blockquote>"But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will."</blockquote>
What is so wrong with this? It is the truth. Romney's dad always said that it hurts to be right too early, but this will not hurt Romney. It is not too early. Everyone knows that southern republicans will not want to listen to Ted Kennedy (the man who has killed more people with his car, than my gun has killed) preach to us about how we need to show gay people respect. But southern republicans will listen to someone who stood up for the right of catholic charities to participate in the adoption process, Southern republicans will listen to a man who thinks the rights of children are more important than the rights of adults, say to them that they need to show respect to gays. We can make this not just be an issue between the parties.
Joseph Mccarthy said that communism should not be made an issue between republicans and democrats. He said, and I think this is one of the times he was right, that if we made it a contest between our two great parties, that we will see one of the parties disappear of the face of the earth, and that would be bad for America. The New York Times is trying to make this an issue BETWEEN the parties. They are trying to make it look like everyone in the Republican Party hates gays. This is not the truth. We don't hate gays. We just think the rights of children are more important than the rights of adults.
Most gay people will tell you that they love both their mother and father, and they will tell you that they are glad they had parents representing the two great genders: Women and Men. Lets not make this an issue between the parties, were one party is assumed to hate gays.
There is nothing in Romney's statements that a red blooded American who is comfortable with his or her own sexuality has to be embarrassed of. Romney said that both parties should be nice to gays, show them respect, and hire them in the work place.
When he ran for governor in 2002, Romney declared his opposition to both same-sex marriage and civil unions. "Call me old fashioned, but I don't support gay marriage nor do I support civil union," said Romney in an October 2002 gubernatorial debate. He also voiced support for basic domestic partnership benefits for gay couples.
<blockquote>But his emphasis has shifted in the last two years. As he moves into this new phase of his career, Mr. Romney rarely talks about the need to protect gay men and lesbians from bias, instead presenting himself as a conservative stalwart in the fight against same-sex marriage, arguing that legally recognizing same-sex unions endangers the cultural support for heterosexual families.</blockquote>
This is about the stupidest thing I have ever read. Look at the dates for this quote: OCTOBER 16th 2006
In fact, as Americans, I believe that we should show an outpouring of respect and tolerance for all people. I believe God loves all of his children, that no one is abhorred -- that regardless of the differences and different choices, we should show that same respect. As Americans, we must vigorously reject discrimination and bigotry.
These people at the New York Times are some of the stupidest people I have ever read. They say stupid stuff, like Romney is a hypocrite without giving any example of hypocrisy, and they say that he doesn't talk about equality any more, when it took me 30 seconds to find a great quote that shows how consistent Romney has been.
I would really like to cuss at them right now, but I won't.
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Dec 9, 2006
The stupidity has gone too far
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