LDS church leaders shouldn't claim they are prophets without giving any prophecies






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    LDS Prophets have not prophesied anything important +2
















    Brigham Young believed that the moon and sun were inhabited.



    1. "Who can tell us of the inhabitants of this little planet that shines of an evening, called the moon?...when you inquire about the inhabitants of that sphere you find that the most learned are as ignorant in regard to them as the ignorant of their fellows. So it is in regard to the inhabitants of the sun. Do you think it is inhabited? I rather think it is. Do you think there is any life there? No question of it; it was not made in vain." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 13, p. 271)

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    Many LDS Church leaders were chauvinistic


    (2) The LDS church creates psychology problems in the lives of its members









    1. Many people in the LDS church feel guilt when they do not keep all the commandments. None of them sound too bad by themselves but the list complete list is impossible. For any of the The Church will say "look at all that Jesus did for you, and you can't even do x". But that trump card doesn't lead to good lives. We don't all have to be a martyrs. You shouldn't sacrifice your life for a Church that is not going to sacrifice for you. But the church doesn't addresses the thorny issues of its past, apologizes for them, or fixes them. The LDS church tells its member to do all the things other Christians do plus:


      1. Striving for earthly perfection

      2. Genealogy

      3. Temple Work

      4. Having lots of Children

      5. Home teaching

      6. Visiting Teaching

      7. Giving Talks in Church

      8. Church callings including bishopric, teaching classes, Sunday schools, etc


    2. Telling people that Masturbation is wrong, creates guilt for a normal behavior, and guilt often leads to addiction, and perversion. 

    3. The LDS church does not work well for people with social anxiety. 





    1.  The LDS Church works well for people that fit into the culture. 

    2. People in Utah seem pretty happy







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      The LDS church is too authoritarian.






      1. The LDS church over emphasizes the stories about (blind or inspired) obedience: such as the story of Adam doing sacrifices before he knew why, the messed up Abraham story, Joseph asking people for their wives, etc. But David O. McKay told Bruce R. McConkie not to publish Mormon Doctrine, but he did it any way. It seems as though Church leaders want authority when they tell others to obey them, but don't really like having the authority of others usurped over their free will. 





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      Images as reasons to agree and disagree

      A picture says a thousand words. Why would we keep them out of a debate? Why not have the top 10 pictures that support AND oppose the same issue.


      When you do a Google image search, they are returned to you based on an algorithm. For each set of words, Google lists the best images that match their words based on their algorithm.

      Similarly, I want to use an algorithm to rank the top images that agree and disagree with different positions.

      Political cartoons might be used for political positions. In this case, you have the top 10 political cartoons for a presidential candidate in one column and the top political cartoons against a presidential candidate in another.

      For instance, the issue of Drug Legalization:


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