(+3) According to LDS doctrine an uninformed choice is not a valid exercise of agency for which someone is held accountable or rewarded

Reasons to agree

1. 7Thus came the ^avoice of the Lord unto me, saying: All who have died ^bwithout a knowledge of this gospel, who would have received it if they had been permitted to tarry, shall be ^cheirs of the celestial kingdom of God;


2. 8 Also all that shall die henceforth without a knowledge of it, who^awould have received it with all their hearts, shall be heirs of that kingdom;


3. 9For I, the Lord, will ^ajudge all men according to their ^bworks, according to the ^cdesire of their hearts.


4. 10 And I also beheld that all ^achildren who die before they arrive at the ^byears of accountability are ^csaved in the celestial kingdom of heaven.

Reasons to disagree

1. The LDS Church sort of believes this, but they also tell people they will be held accountable if they choose to be ignorant.  

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The LDS church is more dishonest about its past than other Churches.

Reasons to agree

1. My mission president told me that Joseph Smith had never consummated any of his relationships outside of his marriage to Emma... this turns out to not be true.


2. Very few members have herd that their are multiple conflicting accounts of the first vision. 


3. A recent pope apologized for the Catholic church's complacency during the Holocaust. 

Reasons to disagree

1.  The Catholic church is not fully transparent about its complacency during the holocaust. 


2. Many Catholic churches have tried to cover up priest that have molested children. 


3. Most southern churches are not honest about their previous support of slavery. 


4. Gordon B. Hinckley dedicated a monument at the location of the mountain meadow massacre. 

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# of reasons to agree: 3

# of reasons to disagree: -4

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Churches should be honest about their past

Reasons to agree

1. It is hypocritical for churches to lie about their past


2. It is hypocritical for churches to cover up their past. 


3. You interfere with someone's agency when you convince them to "choose" something based on incomplete or inaccurate information.


4. A church should not feel good about converting people, if they don't tell them the Truth about their church. 


5. According to LDS doctrine, an uninformed choice is not a valid exercise of agency for which someone is held accountable (and conversely, for which they can be rewarded). 

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# of reasons to agree: 5

# of reasons to disagree: -0

# of reasons to agree with reasons to agree: 0

# of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: 0

Total Idea Score: 3

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Mormons don't really believe their family will be together forever

Reasons to agree

1. The family is separated for eternity as each is busily involved being the God of their respective worlds. (Some Latter-day Saints may argue they will be able to “visit” each other, but occasional visits hardly constitute being “together forever.”) The cruel reality is that there is no way within the Mormon system for a family to be together forever, not in the sense of being a family unit as it is so commonly portrayed. Because the LDS Church has made God in the image of man, the logical end result within the LDS system is that even in the best-case scenario LDS eternal families will suffer from the same sad realities as earthly families: children grow up, marry, move away, have their own children who grow up, marry and move away, literally worlds apart. In the other scenarios the separation is absolute and eternal as parents and children are relegated to different kingdoms whose borders are forever sealed.

Reasons to disagree

1.  What Mormons believe is that they will be together in the same realm. All the details are not explained, but supposedly it will be pretty good. 

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1. Opposing Mormonism

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1.  Promoting Mormonism

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1. Search for truth

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# of reasons to disagree: -1

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Homosexuality is a choice

(+1) If we need help from God anyways to do our family history work back to Adam, then that means the pressure is off of us to do it now

Reasons to agree

1. There is no way we can get all the way back to Adam anyways... and so we are told that some work will have to happen during the millenium... but if we have access to angles and help during the millenium, and people who have died know who their parents and children are, then it should only take about a week or so to get it all done, with all the billions of people that are alive now...

Reasons to disagree

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# of reasons to disagree: -0

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# of reasons to disagree with reasons to agree: 0

Total Idea Score: 1

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