Obama is right on tax havens

 Obama said; "right now we’ve got a whole host of corporate loopholes and tax havens. There’s a building in the Cayman Islands that houses supposedly 12,000 US-based corporations. That’s either the biggest building in the world or the biggest tax scam in the world, and we know which one it is. If we close some of those loopholes, we’ve put forward tax relief plans, that will not only restore fairness to our tax code, but it also puts money into the pockets of hard-working Americans who need it right now, who will spend it, and will actually improve our economic growth over time, particularly at a time when we’re seeing a credit crunch. But it requires leadership from the white house that restores that sense that we’re all in this together." ~ 2007 Des Moines Register Democratic Debate Dec 13, 2007

Reasons to agree with Obama:

1. Businesses that make money in America, because America built roads, won WWI, WWII, protected freedom, and defeated communism, owe the government their fair share of taxes.

Interest of those who agree with Obama

1. Stopping cheaters and corruption 
2. Liberal guilt (defending a minority because he is a minority).
   

Interest of those who disagree with Obama

1. Greed
2. Racism (criticizing a minority because he is a minority)

Obama often mischaracterizes the views of those he disagrees with

Reasons to agree:

1.        Obama said; "The fact that we’re spending $12 billion every month in Iraq means that we can’t engage in the kind of infrastructure improvements that are going to make us more competitive, we can’t deliver on the kinds of health care reforms that Clinton and I are looking for. McCain is willing to have these troops over there for 100 years. The notion that we would sustain that kind of effort and neglect not only making us more secure here at home, more competitive here at home, allow our economy to sink." -Source: 2008 Democratic debate at University of Texas in Austin Feb 21, 2008. Obama was saying that McCain was going to be spending $12 billion a month in Iraq. All McCain was saying is that we still have troops in Germany, and Japan. That it's not a problem having our troops in a place, its just a problem if people are dying, and money is being spent. Obama mischaracterized what McCain said.

2.       Obama constantly made fun of McCain for saying that the fundamentals of our economy were sound. For instance in the 1st presidential debate on September 26th, 2008, he said: "Ten days ago McCain said the fundamentals of the economy are sound." However Obama said the exact same thing when he was president. What they both meant was that we still have natural resources, educated people, and stuff. Obama tried to make it sound like McCain was out of touch, and didn't know there was a recession, but McCain acknowledged how bad things were in the sentence before the one Obama always quoted, yet Obama chose to always take him out of context. In this way Obama is a typical politician.

Obama is a hypocrite

Reasons to disagree with Obama:

1. Obama self rightously accused Clinton of "resort(ing) to the same typical politics that we’ve seen in Washington" (2008 Congressional Black Caucus Democratic debate Jan 21, 2008) and then accused her of mischaracterizing his beliefs. However Obama often mischaracterizes the views of those he disagrees with .

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Obama was sometimes stupid in the way he tried to blame Bush for everything:

Obama said: "We know it was George Bush’s Washington that let the banks and financial institutions run amok, and take our economy down this dangerous road." Source: Response to 2008 State of the Union address Jan 28, 2008. So now it is "Obama's Washington" and we can blame him for everything that Nancy Pelosie, or Harry Reed does.

Obama is wrong to always use strawman arguments

Reasons to agree:

1. Obama said; "It's not going to happen. We're not going to go round them up ... We should give them a pathway to citizenship (Obama at Joliet town hall)" But no one wants to "round them up".
2. Obama used strawman arguments with the stimulas bill. Whenever people would criticize it, he would say, "well some people don't want to do anything".

Background:
A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position

Interest of those who agree (that Obama is wrong):

1. Promoting the Republican Party by attacking a democrat.
2. Promoting more logical debate.
3. Racism (criticizing a minority, Obama, because he is a minority).
   

Interest of those who disagree (that Obama is wrong):

1. Promoting the Democratic Party by defending a democrat.
   
2. Liberal guilt (defending a minority, Obama, because he is a minority).
   

Obama wants to reward people for breaking the law.

Reasons to agree:

1. Obama said; he "will not support any bill that does not provide an earned path to citizenship for the undocumented population."

Interest of those who agree (that Obama is wrong):

1. Promoting the Republican Party by attacking a democrat.
   
2. The Rule of Law
   
3. Self interest: promoting their own race (if their race is different from the immigrant)
   

Interest of those who disagree (that Obama is wrong):

1. Promoting the Democratic Party by defending a democrat.
   
2. Self interest: promoting their own race (if their race is the same as the immigrant).
   
3. Family. Trying to re-unite with their family from South America

Obama lies:

Reasons to agree:

1. Under Obama's plan, middle-class families would see their income taxes cut, with no family making less than $250,000 seeing an increase. However, he did vote for a budget in June 2008, that would raise the taxes on single people with a taxable income of over $32,000 by pushing up their tax bracket from 25% to 28%.
2. On January 24, 2007, in reference to his stated plan to take public financing should he procure the nomination, he said, "I think that for a time, the presidential public financing system works." On November 27, he said, "I will aggressively pursue an agreement with the Republican nominee to preserve a publicly financed general election," and on February 28, 2008, he wrote that he planned to "aggressively pursue" a publicly financed campaign, later promising to sit down with John McCain to ensure "a public system" of campaign financing is preserved.[75] However, on June 19, 2008, he opted out of public campaign financing.
3. He originally opposed efforts to include any legal immunity, especially retroactive immunity, for government officials and telecommunications firms alleged to have taken part in the Bush administration's warrantless eavesdropping program as part of legislation to modernize the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.[108] However, on June 20, 2008, Obama issued a statement saying that he would support the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 passed the previous week by the House of Representatives
4. "Every dollar I’ve proposed, I’ve proposed an additional cut that it matches." (2008 third presidential debate against John McCain Oct 15, 2008 )
5. In Iowa Obama promising to lead “not by polls, but by principle”. But that was just to win the election. According to Politico Obama governs by polls. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20852.html
6. Obama promised to get us out of Iraq.
7. Promised to close Gitmo.
8. Obama says that he has not supported cutting funding to the war as a way to end U.S. involvement in the conflict. He stated that, "Once we were in, we were going to have some responsibility to try to make it work as best we can".[170] Obama was however one of 14 senators who voted against the successful passage of H.R.2206 in May 2007, a bill meant to provide continued funding for the Iraq war free from any withdrawal deadlines.[171]
9. "The Obama administration is signaling to Congress that the president could support taxing some employee health benefits, as several influential lawmakers and many economists favor, to help pay for overhauling the health care system. The proposal is politically problematic for President Obama, however, since it is similar to one he denounced in the presidential campaign as 'the largest middle-class tax increase in history.' " -- New York Times, 3/14
   
10. After saying he wouldn't have lobbyists in his administration, Obama made 17 exceptions in the first two weeks in office. ...including Tom Daschle, who worked as a top lobbyist yet was going to be appointed Secretary of Health and Human Services -- until his failure to pay income taxes derailed his nomination.
11. "Chicago has yet to recoup the $1.74 million cost of President Obama's victory celebration in Grant Park -- despite a burgeoning $50.5 million budget shortfall that threatens more layoffs and union concessions." -- Chicago Sun-Times, 2/20
12. Obama quietly announced that he would not press for new labor and environmental regulations in the North American Free Trade Agreement, going back on a campaign promise.
    

Reasons to disagree:

1. Every campaign promice that is not followed through is not a lie. People should change their minds. The flip-flop charge is stupid. You have to look at the "lie" and try to figure out if it was made in good will. You also should count the number of promices that have been broken, and see who lies the most. Because every politician has gone back on promices. George Bush said no new taxes. Clinton said, "I did not have sex with that Woman". Every politician lies. That is why we need to hook them up to lie detectors. Real lying, when they know they are not telling the truth is a problem, but changin your mind is not a lie.

Webpages that agree:

1. http://obamalies.net/

You may say these changes aren't a big deal. But it wasn't just Obama changing his mind. He domogoged the issue, lecturing Bush on how wrong he was, and making a big deal about how he was going to be so much better. He made all these big deals, and then very quitly changed his opinion.

Interest of those who agree (that Obama is wrong):

1. Promoting the Republican Party by attacking a democrat.
   
2. Racism (critisizing a minority, Obama, because he is a minority)

Interest of those who disagree (that Obama is right):

1. Promoting the Democratic Party by defending a democrat.
2. Liberal guilt (defending a minority, Obama, because he is a minority)