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Dec 8, 2006
Can you passionatly defend a moderate position?
Dec 7, 2006
Wade is for real
http://www.thephoenix.com/TalkingPolitics/PermaLink.aspx?guid=47fcf34d-5bac-4b73-b1ec-970cae6781c6
Thursday, December 07, 2006
MittSpaces
Yes, that's right, www.mittspaces.com is a brand-new MySpace-ish site devoted to praising all things Romney-related. It is unaffiliated with the campaign, and was created a few days ago by Wade Eyerly, a radidly enthusiastic young Republican operative I first came across a couple of years ago, when he helped run a small 527 organization called "Fight for Right." He's worked for Dick Cheney, and is a big big big Mitt Romney enthusiast.
Anyway, it's got 24 "friends" already, which is more than the frightening-colored Mitt Romney for President site on real MySpace (although several MittSpaces friends appear to be related to Mr. Eyerly).
It's going to be interesting watching how Presidential candidates try to use new outreach tools in the '08 race, and I don't doubt that some interesting ideas will originate in these kinds of early, unofficial, draft-candidate-X efforts.
I guess wade is "radidly enthusiastic". I think he means radically... but I'm not won to katch peples spelin.
Romney's Wikipedia site has removed pro-mitt links
There, is a new development at this site:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mitt_Romney
"After noticing that Students Against Mitt was removed as "inappropriate", I just removed all these unofficial, pro-Romney sites (see below). I may be wrong, but they appear to violate WP:EL, as well as WP:NPOV#Undue weight. schi talk 23:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)"
Romney Sites - National
Romney Sites - By State
Romney Sites - By Organization
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- I would not have removed students against Mitt. I run myclob.pbwiki.com. I am pro-Romney but I do not think myclob.pbwiki.com is... It is a Mitt Romney encyclopedia, with direct quotes from him on every topic. I would invite anti-romney people to help me edit it. But quotes are organized by topic, which are organized alphabetically. I have every Romney press release, and this site may become more important, once Romney's governor site goes away... I imagine patrick devall will not keep Romney press releases around on the mass governor servers...It is not pro-Romney, because it has direct indisputable quotes... tell me what you think of the site, and if you don't think you could link to it now, tell me what you think I could do to make it acceptable...myclob 02:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- As you can see I have made an argument to keep my site...Go to the talk page to discuss this issue...
Dec 6, 2006
Your New York Observer Piece
When he ran for governor in 2002, Romney declared his opposition to both same-sex marriage and civil unions. [34] "Call me old fashioned, but I don't support gay marriage nor do I support civil union," said Romney in an October 2002 gubernatorial debate. He also voiced support for basic domestic partnership benefits for gay couples. Romney told the Log Cabin Club of Massachusetts (a Republican gay-rights group) that he did not support same-sex marriage or civil unions, but would fight discrimination against gays and lesbians. [35] He also opposed an amendment, then before the General Court, that would have banned same-sex marriage and outlawed all domestic partnership benefits for gay couples. As a result, the Log Cabin Club endorsed Romney in the gubernatorial election. [36]. When campaigning in 2002, Romney's stated position was that "all citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of sexual orientation" and that "homosexuals should have the right to a domestic partnership status that affords them the potential for health benefits and rights of survivorship." [37]
I am discipointed that you would misscharacterize Romney's record.
Your conclusion is not only stupid, it is not honest: "But that's Willard Romney: He could have been an exceptional, ideologically independent governor, just as he could have been the real-deal conservative he now appears to be. It's just a pity that he didn't pick one face and stick with it. "
You prove that you are not ideologically independent writer, but choose to call someone a flip flop, even when their positions have never changed.
Dec 5, 2006
Ever hear of my-space?
http://mittspace.ning.com/
This site is kind of new, I look forward to seeing what happens...
Blog - O - Sphere
Dec 4, 2006
Mitt Romney declares war on Science Ignorance
Quotes from Governor Mitt Romney on Science Education
- "Massachusetts has a choice," Romney said. "We can provide our kids with a first-rate science education today or we can learn to live with a second-rate economy tomorrow."
2003
- "Massachusetts is home to cutting-edge research and industries. Companies locate and stay here to tap into an unparalleled R&D sector supported by nearly 120 colleges and universities, the highest concentration of academic institutions in the world."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 08-12-2003 Press Release
2004
- "Massachusetts has some of the best schools and teachers in the nation," Romney said, speaking tonight from the historic House Chamber at the State House. "Education reform, adopted a decade ago, raised standards and closed funding gaps. But it was the first step, not the last. Let us now take every step, to prepare every child, for an ever more competitive future."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 01-15-2004 Press Release
2005
- "We're making progress, there's no doubt about it, but we have more work to do. These test scores reflect the hard work and creativity of our students, teachers and schools, but they also reveal that some are still struggling. It is increasingly critical that we advance bold reforms to ensure greater accountability and performance in every classroom."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 10-19-2005 Press Release
- "Our Presidential Award nominees set a great example, not only for educators in Massachusetts, but for the nation. Distinguished math and science teachers like these are the critical components of a public education system that will prepare us for the next century, and they deserve to be recognized for their hard work, creativity and dedication."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 11-07-2005 Press Release
- "Massachusetts has a choice. We can provide our kids with a first-rate science education today or we can learn to live with a second-rate economy tomorrow."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 01-25-2005 Press Release
- "Today's students are tomorrow's scientists and engineers. We need to ask ourselves whether our students are being given the tools to preserve the state's workforce advantage and thrive in tomorrow's science based economy."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 01-25-2005 Press Release
- "When a school is labeled as chronically underperforming, that's not a punishment but a signal that extra assistance is needed. Let's do our part and do it swiftly and efficiently to make sure student achievement doesn't suffer."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 01-25-2005 Press Release
- "Just as science can free the innocent, it can also identify the guilty."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 04-28-2005 Press Release
- "Our Presidential Award nominees set a great example, not only for educators in Massachusetts, but for the nation. Distinguished math and science teachers like these are the critical components of a public education system that will prepare us for the next century, and they deserve to be recognized for their hard work, creativity and dedication."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 11-07-2005 Press Release
- "Given the demands of today's global economy, it is more important than ever before that our students leave our schools with a solid education in both math and science. We are lucky to have such skilled educators in our classrooms."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 11-07-2005 Press Release
Romney beefs up team
a noble undocumented worker
You do it by hiring him to cut the lawn at Gov. Mitt Romney's house, or at least that's how the bow-tied bumkissers at The Boston Globe pulled it off.
The phrase that is usually frowned upon by the Globe - illegal immigrants - was used 11 times in a front-page story Friday. Yesterday, those same dreaded "illegal immigrants" made it into the lead sentence of the follow-up story...
...Suppose that Mitt had shown more interest in the immigration status of his lawn crew. What if he had confronted the company owner - a legal alien from Colombia, remember - and told him he suspected that the mowing crew was here illegally, an adverb used three times in the first story.
Here's how the lead of that story could have been written:
"GOP Gov. Mitt Romney engaged in racial profiling, assuming that good family men from Chelsea, here only to do the jobs that Americans won't do, were in the U.S. illegally. In a move denounced by such non-partisan groups as the ACLU and La Raza, this hypocrite, whose father by the way was born in Mexico, even demanded to see their green cards before he let them work on his verdant lawn. Romney, a member of the Mormon faith, which until recent years did not allow blacks to become ministers..."
Dec 3, 2006
Troopers can arrest illegal immigrants in Romney deal
Troopers can arrest illegal immigrants in Romney deal
Critics warn of profiling, police mistrust
By Michael Levenson and Jonathan Saltzman, Globe Staff | December 3, 2006
Governor Mitt Romney has reached an agreement with federal authorities that allows the Massachusetts State Police to arrest immigrants who are in the state illegally, his spokesman said.
Currently, state troopers have no power to detain people for violations of their immigration status alone, said the spokesman, Eric Fehrnstrom. If troopers stop people who they suspect are illegal immigrants, they can call a US Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in Vermont to check on their status and detain them if federal officials request it, he said.
Under the deal, brokered after months of negotiations, troopers can detain people they determine are illegal immigrants during regular police duties, Fehrnstrom said. This authority will be given to two dozen or three dozen troopers who undergo 4 1/2 weeks of training in immigration laws, civil rights, and ways to avoid racial profiling, he said. The troopers will probably be members of special units that pursue violent fugitives or combat street gangs.
Ferhnstrom said the troopers would not go on patrols aimed at rounding up illegal immigrants. But they will be able to arrest, for example, a motorist they stop for a broken tail light if they determine the motorist has violated immigration law. Fehrnstrom, speaking Friday, said the pact would be announced publicly this week. He declined to provide more details yesterday.
Click here for more:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2006/12/03/troopers_can_arrest_illegal_immigrants_in_romney_deal/
Dec 1, 2006
Great take on Mitt Romney
Dems blow it! Can't hold on to Romney illigal alien story
Instead of waiting until the Thursday before the election (in this case, 11/7/2008) like they did with Ted Haggart, Bush Jr. drunk driving, and Bush Sr. mystery romance; waiting until they can stop Republican momentum like Foley; or until they can do damage both the president and the war effort like NY Times 1966-2006, the Dems blow it by releasing damaging information about Mitt Romney a full two years early. I was outraged that the Governor couldn't take a measly two minutes from his cushy governor job to stroll down the front steps of his house and demand I.D. from the landscapers his legal contractor hired. Just to show Mitt Romney how it's done, I went to Gigante and demanded to see the register-girl's green card before I purchased my Snickers and soda(yes, I know, tomorrow I'll start my diet).
Romney burnishing credentials on trip to Japan, S. Korea, China
Nov 30, 2006
CEO Running Mate
Recently Governor Mitt Romney and the Commonwealth PAC welcomed several top supporters to Boston. In an effort to thank those who have been supportive of Romney and the efforts of the Commonwealth PAC over the last year, the group gathered for dinner. During the event, the results of the mid-term elections were discussed as well as how the Republican Party can move forward.
Some of those in attendance included Eric Tanenblatt (Bush Ranger and Georgia Chair), Peter Karmanos (President and CEO of Compuware), Nancy Coverdell (wife of late U.S. Senator Paul Coverdell of Georgia), Meg Whitman (President and CEO of Ebay), Gary Hunt (Gov Arnold Schwarzenegger's Finance Chair), Dave Phillips (President Bush's North Carolina Finance Chair and Bush Ranger) and Dick Williams (Founder of President Bush's Mavericks Program).
Wouldn't that be cool if Meg Whitman ran as VP? Maybe it is not very well thought out, but it would propose a great alternative to Hillary. Here is someone who made it big on her own, with out following the coat tails of a creep of a husband...
Whitman began her working career at Procter & Gamble from 1979 to 1981, when she built her experience in brand management. She then spent eight years working for the consulting firm Bain and Company, eventually becoming a vice-president.
Did Romney and her work together? Wasn't Romney also vise-president? Romney's not worth a Billion is he? No. Does anyone else think she would be good? Is she interested in policy? She is a great manager, or you would assume she is...
What do you guys think?Advisers to Mitt
"Greg Mankiw's Blog: Random Observations for Students of Economics"
Greg Mankiw is advising Mitt Romney on Economic issues, for those of you who have an interest in economics.
Please look around, before you comment. From what I understand his readers want to keep the discussion focused on Economics, and not politics.
So if you are interested in Economics, check it out here.
Also stop by to learn a little more about Glen Hubbard here.
Oh my gosh, oh my gosh, oh my gosh! You have got to watch this video!
~~~Mike
Nov 29, 2006
"Mitt Romney stokes homophobia"?
Mitt Romney stokes homophobia?
People keep saying that Mitt Romney is a Bigot or a Homophobe, but they don't say why. They never give quotes or example of things that he has done that were bigoted or homophobic.
Here is a good example.
Romney has said:
"This is a subject about which people have tender emotions in part because it touches individual lives. It also has been misused by some as a means to promote intolerance and prejudice. This is a time when we must fight hate and bigotry, when we must root out prejudice, when we must learn to accept people who are different from one another. Like me, the great majority of Americans wish both to preserve the traditional definition of marriage and to oppose bias and intolerance directed towards gays and lesbians."
- Governor Mitt Romney, 06-22-2004 Press Release
Then the other side keeps saying that he won't stand up for traditional marriage, and that his position has changed as he has started his run for president. These people are not very interested in truth. Romney's position has been the same from the beginning. When he ran for governor in 2002, Romney declared his opposition to both same-sex marriage and civil unions. "Call me old fashioned, but I don't support gay marriage nor do I support civil union," said Romney in an October 2002 gubernatorial debate.
He did not change his position because he wanted to be president. His position has always been the same. People on both sides are going to beat up on him. People on the right will hate Romney because he acknowledges that there is some bigotry towards gays, and because he calls for equal treatment. People on the left will call him a fascist because he puts the desires of children to have a mother and a father above the rights of adults. Both sides are wrong.
Oct 4, 2006
My Dad recovered from a scary surgery

On the 4th of July, 2006, my dad, Marvin, was getting out of his RV. We were at my cousin's cabin in McCall Idaho. He twisted his ankle, getting out, and hit his head.
We were more concerned about his ankle, but should have been worried about his head, because he actually was knocked unconscious... we don't know how long he was out in the forest laying there, and I don't like the vision of him hobbling to the cabin…
Anyways he must have hurt his head. A few months later he started having cognitive problems. He was falling down mowing the lawn… he had just had eye surgery, and at first he thought he was having problems with his vision…he went to the emergency room when one morning he couldn't get out of bed…
My mom was really scared. Everyone. I think he went in on a Friday. The doctor was out, and so he had to wait till Monday to have the operation: a bi-lateral hemotosis, or something… basically it was to stop the bleeding… the blood was pooling up in his brain…
He had to go through therapy to learn to walk, and do everything again…
They had him doing mind exercises…
That was more than 6 years ago. From that time he has seen 2 more of my kids born, seen them at Christmas and for summer break, visited them here, and spoken to them almost every weekend.



I'm very grateful for modern medicine, and for my dad.
Sep 16, 2006
You should track family graduation photos on the same page
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I was still very young when my brother graduated from High School |
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Driving to high school graduation |
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1998 Megan's BA in English. I finished Ricks the same time (?) she finished at the Y. Best girlfriend ever. |
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Best mom. Ever. |
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Best dad. Ever. |
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1998, Assoc Mech Engr, Victor Forsnes. Probably the best teacher I ever had. |
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My parents took this picture after I graduated from Ricks in 1998 |
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2002, BS Electrical Engineering |
J, 1st Grade |
Visiting Washington, Oregon, and Northern California state parks can be a good vacation
We brought our tent, stayed in State Parks, and only got rained out once.
- went to Mt. Saint Helens. Did not pay for helicopter tour,
- went swimming in the Columbia river,
- rented a 2 person boat,
- lake canoed
- took a ferry to Victoria on British Columbia,
- walked in the red-woods,
- visited KC
- stayed in a Casino in Reno
- Spent a day in San Fransico
- saw the worlds shortest river
- walked down to crater lake
- made Megan cry driving down the world's curviest road
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Driving through a tree |
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Megan making hash-browns on our Camp Stove. This looks like the coast |
One of the many places that waves ambushed us |
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At a Japanese garden in Seattle. We were able to visit KC |
Megan and I had fun on our Senior prom
REM blasted in our mind, a little too loud for music to be when you are trying to discuss matters of importance. Still, we were proud of our flippant attitude in determining the most extravagant event as graduating seniors.
Given our dire circumstances, I said, "Don't worry about it. We'll just figure it out tomorrow morning." The topic of conversation was what we would do tomorrow morning. It was too late for sensible people to try and be sensible.
Derek had a hole in his pants, and he proceeded to rip off the bottom portion of his lower garment. Koji heard the ripping noise and looked at Derek with that expression only Koji could make (Koji was a foreign exchange student. He was a member of a punk rock band in Japan but was harmless in a way that very few Americans could possibly imagine. He also personified the bad-singing Japanese person to a tea and attempted everything from Led Zeplin to the Beatles (at a moment's notice). The look shows his complete inability to understand American members of the human race. My Mom looked like she disagreed with my conclusion of normality when she rolled her eyes in our general direction as she put away the groceries.
I've never known my mom to go shopping at 11 o'clock. She must have been bored to have wandered about the deserted grocery store to look for food to fill my lonely stomach.
Derek and I concluded that we needed to go to some park down by the River. Our plans involved:
- Looking at pictographs and running around and flailing our arms about, and just being downright silly.
- Doing some target practice with my Dad's Guns.
That night, I tossed and turned like a hairy-toothed madman, pulling and stretching a quilt trying to cover his cold feet. I was ill. I had a nice cold-sore developing, and my nose was runny. Derek called at 7:00 AM to inform me to get ready to make a purchasing arrangement for groceries and flowers. I rose from bed at 8:00, too tired to flail my arms about. Derek arrived at my abode at 8:30 and waited while I brushed my teeth. We then got groceries, flowers, and girls.
Megan and I drove around Derek's house until he got there. We fixed and consumed breakfast, which consisted of Swedish pancakes (a little heavy on the egg, but delicious), fruit with cream, and OJ (of the fruit variety.)
Katie, Derek's youngest sibling, ate with us. I wanted to hit her. Derek did. Just joking, she was fine, and as a result of her fineness, no violence ensued.
After breakfast, we walked around the Snake River, looked at pictographs, threw rocks off the bridge, and messed around. I didn't feel silly enough to flail my arms about. We stopped at a shooting range, shot beer bottles and clay pigeons, and listened to Pachel Bell. Some guy told us not to use my handgun, not to shoot beer bottles, and to pick up the garbage, all of which we were obliged to do, and all of which we did. We had a nice drive, and I think everyone enjoyed themselves. We then went our separate ways to prepare for the big event.
Derek picked me up at 6:00 in his Lexi, and we picked up Megan at about 6:10. She looked very virtuous, lovely, of good report, and praiseworthy. We went to Lara's house, where the congregations and multiple hosts of people were gathered to look at us, say absolutely nothing intelligent, and take our pictures, all at the same time. We stepped inside the living room with more people than square feet and more cameras than the Grand Canyon on a Japanese holiday. We muddled through our trials and woe and got on our way.
We had our pictures taken three times. Once I got home after the night, I tried the smiles I used in front of a mirror, and they looked exactly like what they were: fake. Not that I wasn't having a good time, just that I had no reason to smile looking at some annoying woman telling me how to hold Megan's hand.
Having completed our mission, we proceeded onward and upward to The Gamekeeper! The salmon was interesting kind of enjoyable, but not succulent or ultimately satisfying. It's not something I totally chewed down on. Although I guess I did, kind of, chow down. Not because it was extraordinarily good, just cause I'm ordinarily a pig, and I forgot to eat differently than usual. I was worried about talking, so I ate pretty fast.
After dinner, we went to the dance. It was loud. I wanted to go do something fun. I knew they had a baby grand piano on the stage at the Civic Center, and I thought it would be cool to play piano or something. I wanted to do something memorable instead of just going in and trying to talk over the noise.
I wanted Megan to feel comfortable, but it was unsupervised, and I didn't think she wanted to go in. It was probably locked anyway, but for a while, I thought I was with Derek, so I thought we could find a way. Then I remembered I was with Megan, so after being immature and trying to do something fun, I succumbed to the dance, and we went in and sat down at a table. We wandered around a little, talking to some of our different friends. We danced about 5 slow dances. I wish we would have danced to Stairway to Heaven, but maybe Megan wouldn't have liked it.
Surprisingly, they played Offspring and some other non-traditional dance music. After prom, we went to Video City to get a movie, but it was closed being 12:01. We just got "The River Wild" from Lara's residence and watched the movie at Derek's. In conclusion, it was a fabulous, fun-filled night for everyone. Or at least, I hope.
Later, I learned that Megan was very upset that we did not get dessert. Derek got some flaming thing.
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Life is filled with funny events and timing
Reasons to Agree:
- Coincidence in Timing (A1): Megan's performance of "A Marshmallow World" in a minor key aligns humorously with her dating frustrations, symbolizing life's quirky timing.
- Linkage Score: High (if the argument is that life's coincidences often reflect our personal experiences humorously).
- Evidence: Personal anecdote, psychological theories of perception and confirmation bias.
- Prom Date Plan Discussion (A2): The conversation with Megan's father about prom timings humorously highlights parental concerns and the unpredictability of plans.
- Linkage Score: Moderate (if the argument focuses on the humor arising from generational differences and expectations).
- Evidence: Personal experience, social norms about dating and parental roles.
- Coincidence in Timing (A1): Megan's performance of "A Marshmallow World" in a minor key aligns humorously with her dating frustrations, symbolizing life's quirky timing.
Reasons to Disagree:
- Confirmation Bias (D1): People tend to remember and give significance to coincidences while ignoring routine events, leading to a skewed perception of their frequency.
- Linkage Score: High (argues directly against the idea that life is exceptionally filled with funny coincidences).
- Evidence: Psychological studies on confirmation bias and memory.
- Confirmation Bias (D1): People tend to remember and give significance to coincidences while ignoring routine events, leading to a skewed perception of their frequency.
Conclusion Scoring:
- Cumulative Argument Score: Total scores of A1 and A2 minus D1, adjusted by their respective linkage scores.
- Impact of Conclusion: The belief's score could affect our perception of life's events, influencing our outlook and mood.
Associated Beliefs:
- Simulation Theory: Some funny coincidences may lead to a belief in simulation theory.
- Linkage to Main Belief: Moderate (humorous coincidences can be used as anecdotal evidence for larger metaphysical theories).
- Evidence to Explore: Philosophical arguments for and against simulation theory, empirical data supporting or refuting common coincidences.
Analytical Insights:
- Humor in Everyday Life: The belief underlines the role of humor in interpreting life events.
- Psychological Impact: Such beliefs can influence mental health by framing life experiences in a lighter, more humorous manner.